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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Based on a poll of 1500 likely voters, you'd NOW support a vote by the people of CA.. LOL Dude you're such a liar!! We already had that vote, you lost, but wouldn't accept the loss so you coopted the judiciary to find a way for you to win anyway...

    What color is the sky in your world?


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    I didn't lose a thing since I don't live in California. In 2012 there will probably be another vote and we can certainly see how things turn out then.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Man... are you joking? The basic definition of torture disagrees with you:

    Torture - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary


    Not to mention we signed the UN Convention Against Torture.

    United Nations Convention Against Torture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (If you want to see all of the signers)
    U.N. says waterboarding should be prosecuted as torture | Reuters

    Also, it would be wise for Bush to be careful, because if he walks into the wrong country and they want to prosecute him, under international law, it is legal:



    In fact, OscarB63, the United States has prosecuted others for waterboard:

    Waterboarding Used to Be a Crime - washingtonpost.com


    Thanks for this debate, by the way. It may be one of the easiest ones I have done in a while. It mostly requires common sense, but the facts also stare you in the face! Also, sorry you were water boarded though I assume it was done to you by a group of your peers and not by a foreign captor.

    I hope you can see the difference as the methodology was probably much less severe on you, and psychologically much easier on you.
    I am tortured everyday listening to the like of liberals like you.. According to your definition I am being tortured.. LOL


    Amatuer..


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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I didn't lose a thing since I don't live in California. In 2012 there will probably be another vote and we can certainly see how things turn out then.
    Agreed! Probably going to battle this one out for a very long time to come, but as much as I am against gay marriage, I don't put this issue even in my top 20 at the moment. We should, and need to worry about other WAY more important issues, IMO.


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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Agreed! Probably going to battle this one out for a very long time to come, but as much as I am against gay marriage, I don't put this issue even in my top 20 at the moment. We should, and need to worry about other WAY more important issues, IMO.


    Tim-
    Meh. I'm really looking forward to when a state approves of same sex marriage by referendum. It's coming and its going to signal a major turn.

    You oppose same sex marriage Tim? That surprises me. I didn't realize you were religous.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    obvious you never spent one day in the military.
    True. I have not. But are you saying that being capture and waterboarded by an enemy would be even remotely close to be waterboarded in training?

    Thanks for addressing everything else, by the way. I suppose that means you have no argument against it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I am tortured everyday listening to the like of liberals like you.. According to your definition I am being tortured.. LOL


    Amatuer..


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    What does this even mean? You got a "like" for this post? There wasn't one fact in it. Rather, it's just you being angry for no apparent reason other than you have no argument.

    And it's amateur, amateur.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    True. I have not. But are you saying that being capture and waterboarded by an enemy would be even remotely close to be waterboarded in training?
    well, since you have never been through the training, you have no basis for comparison do you?


    Thanks for addressing everything else, by the way. I suppose that means you have no argument against it?
    no, it just means it's so ridiculous it's not worth my time.
    The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.

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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    well, since you have never been through the training, you have no basis for comparison do you?



    no, it just means it's so ridiculous it's not worth my time.
    You don't answer questions, do you? You mean international law is not worth your time?

    Here's a question:

    Why should anyone bother debating with someone like you?
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Meh. I'm really looking forward to when a state approves of same sex marriage by referendum. It's coming and its going to signal a major turn.

    You oppose same sex marriage Tim? That surprises me. I didn't realize you were religous.
    I'm not religious and you know it..


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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    You don't answer questions, do you? You mean international law is not worth your time?

    international law written by a bunch of US hating pansies? I'll give it all the due consideration it deserves.

    Here's a question:

    Why should anyone bother debating with someone like you?
    the same reason they should bother debating someone like you. entertainment.

    If I wanted actual serious debate, I'd talk to real people... not puppets on an internet forum.
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    Re: Obama Administration Drops Defense of Anti-Gay Marriage Law

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    international law written by a bunch of US hating pansies? I'll give it all the due consideration it deserves.



    the same reason they should bother debating someone like you. entertainment.

    If I wanted actual serious debate, I'd talk to real people... not puppets on an internet forum.
    You're like an insult machine. Good job, man! And yeah, lets forget about the rest of the world because they are "US hating pansies". Great attitude.
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