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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    In the beginning Unions were a necessary evil in dealing with management but they have long since outlived their usefulness and this is from someone who was a member of a union for 25 years...............

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    Re: Poll: Americans oppose weaker unions

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    Speaking of selective. You cited a 2009 poll that conveniently fit your view.

    Here's a more recent Gallup.
    Actually thank you for that. I was looking for a more recent poll from Gallup and missed that one (which also conveniently fits my view btw).
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    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Actually thank you for that. I was looking for a more recent poll from Gallup and missed that one (which also conveniently fits my view btw).
    The MOST recent one is the one I posted last night.
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And although 64% admitted that their state was in financial crisis,

    71% oppose raising any taxes on anyone
    53% oppose any reduction in government benefits for government workers
    48% oppose any reduction in government programs

    So, these Einsteins that were polled believe that their state is about to go bankrupt, but oppose any solutions to the problem.

    Impressive.
    You seem to have the elitists scorn for the American people.
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    Re: Poll: Americans oppose weaker unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Or Gallup could have asked

    "There are a bunch of communist socialist Trotskyite sucmbag doucebag criminals hiding out across the state line trying to help their union thug buddies to keep fleecing the good honest hard-working taxpayers of the State of Wisconsin. Do you support those communist scumbags or do you think they should be penalized for their high reason and crimes?"

    I suspect the usual right wing extremists would yell out a loud "HELL YEAH" at that prospect and then trumpet the lopsided results as the will of the people.

    I also suspect that an respected organization like Gallup which has been around for over seventy years and has polled the country of thousands upon thousands of issues knows pretty much how to do their jobs.
    Your fantasies about supposed right wing extremists aside, you seem to agree with me that the way the question is phrased goes a long way to determining the poll results. My point is that without including details about the contentious provisions in the bill, annual recertification of the union by public employees, no automatic deduction of dues from paychecks and determination of contentious issues by voters, Gallup measured present biases for or against collective bargaining/unions - and with their seventy years of experience I'm sure they did an excellent job of it - but not opinions about the content of the bill, and perhaps all Gallup was interested in measuring was present biases for or against unions.

    I suspect that many of those who responded to the poll did not know what the content of the bill was, and had they been told, their answers might have been different.

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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And although 64% admitted that their state was in financial crisis,

    71% oppose raising any taxes on anyone
    53% oppose any reduction in government benefits for government workers
    48% oppose any reduction in government programs

    So, these Einsteins that were polled believe that their state is about to go bankrupt, but oppose any solutions to the problem.

    Impressive.
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You keep blowing this off. This is from Gallup.

    Labor Unions See Sharp Slide in U.S. Public Support


    I thought this one was interesting. Looks like Obama effed it up for the unions.
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Your point eludes .


    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    That's the same "We" included in the

    "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

    There's that dang Constitution again!!! Bugger of a document!!
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Welcome to America. We want it all and we don't want to pay for it.
    That's no different than anywhere else.

    Most seem to want cradle to grave insurance with someone else paying for it. "The Rich" are the villains, of course, and their paying for our wants eliminates the hassle of having to look after ourselves.

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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    That's no different than anywhere else.

    Most seem to want cradle to grave insurance with someone else paying for it. "The Rich" are the villains, of course, and their paying for our wants eliminates the hassle of having to look after ourselves.
    speak for yourself.

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    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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