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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Modrate, mainstream America....the same folks who brought you 63 Seats in the house.....29 Governorships, and a myriad of State Legislatures.

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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    All you need to do is to look at the real methodology Gallup employed and not some fantasy scenario of how you might do it.
    And although 64% admitted that their state was in financial crisis,

    71% oppose raising any taxes on anyone
    53% oppose any reduction in government benefits for government workers
    48% oppose any reduction in government programs

    So, these Einsteins that were polled believe that their state is about to go bankrupt, but oppose any solutions to the problem.

    Impressive.

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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Amazed View Post
    Modrate, mainstream America....the same folks who brought you 63 Seats in the house.....29 Governorships, and a myriad of State Legislatures.
    That's the same "We" included in the

    "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."

    There's that dang Constitution again!!! Bugger of a document!!
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Wiki seems to think Gallop and Rasmusen are equally credible, so let's stop bitching and use them both or throw them both out

    Rasmussen Reports - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Rasmussen Reports and Gallup are consistently ranked 1 and 2 by Alexa.com in terms of web traffic among public opinion firms. Rasmussen has a larger social media following: over 80,000 follow the company on Twitter and over 25,000 are Facebook fans. The firm also releases a free daily e-newsletter.

    Rasmussen Reports and Gallup are the only two firms that produce daily tracking polls. Both measure the President’s Job Approval on a daily basis. Gallup measures the Approval among all adults while Rasmussen measures it among Likely Voters. Generally, polls of all adults produce results that are more favorable to Democrats than polls of Likely Voters. However, the ratings produced by both firms are quite similar and show the same trends.
    But then...there is this

    The Gallup Organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    For the 2008 U.S. presidential election, Gallup was rated 17th out of 23 polling organizations in terms of the precision of its pre-election polls relative to the final results.[3]
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You keep blowing this off. This is from Gallup.

    Labor Unions See Sharp Slide in U.S. Public Support
    From your link in case they missed it.

    PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup finds organized labor taking a significant image hit in the past year. While 66% of Americans continue to believe unions are beneficial to their own members, a slight majority now say unions hurt the nation's economy. More broadly, fewer than half of Americans -- 48%, an all-time low -- approve of labor unions, down from 59% a year ago.
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    From your link in case they missed it.

    PRINCETON, NJ -- Gallup finds organized labor taking a significant image hit in the past year. While 66% of Americans continue to believe unions are beneficial to their own members, a slight majority now say unions hurt the nation's economy. More broadly, fewer than half of Americans -- 48%, an all-time low -- approve of labor unions, down from 59% a year ago.
    Haymarket seems to have selective sight. If you read the whole linked article, you see that the popularity of unions have been going down every year since they started the poll.
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Polls like this piss me off because they almost never make the distinction between public sector and private unions. When I was visiting my dad yesterday who is an IBEW guy, he said that the bastards should go back to work. When you work for the government, your at their mercy. For those that don't know, there has always been more or less a long silent hatred between private and government union workers.
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    And although 64% admitted that their state was in financial crisis,

    71% oppose raising any taxes on anyone
    53% oppose any reduction in government benefits for government workers
    48% oppose any reduction in government programs

    So, these Einsteins that were polled believe that their state is about to go bankrupt, but oppose any solutions to the problem.

    Impressive.
    That's very true. You nailed it here. I don't think the solution is raising taxes, I think its making cuts in the two things you hit on.

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    Re: Poll: Americans oppose weaker unions

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor
    Haymarket seems to have selective sight.
    Speaking of selective. You cited a 2009 poll that conveniently fit your view.

    Here's a more recent Gallup.

    August 12, 2010

    A slim majority of 52% of Americans say they approve of labor unions

    U.S. Approval of Labor Unions Remains Near Record Low
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    Re: Americans Oppose Weaker Unions

    concerning collective bargaining for public employees---just who do these big unions give those hundreds of millions of dollars of campaign contributions to?

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