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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by iamitter View Post
    If that's what the constituents who voted for them want them to do, yes.
    Otherwise, no.

    I don't think skipping work is right, I'd much prefer they had a law like the US senate.
    So the Democrat constitutent voted to put them in office.........

    .........so they would run away from said office.......like a bunch of whiney brats.
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    At least the GOP showed up to work. This make Dems look like cowards.
    If the tides were turned everyone's opinions would be different. If Republicans had to do this to block the healthcare bill you'd be pissed if they didn't do it.

    Besides, everyone is saying that this is bad for Dems but they are essentially standing up for their constituents. This is likely to fire up their base much like the healthcare bill did for the republicans. I see this as a good move for them politically.


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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    If the tides were turned everyone's opinions would be different. If Republicans had to do this to block the healthcare bill you'd be pissed if they didn't do it.
    And if they had, you'd be pissed at the GOP for doing it.

    Besides, everyone is saying that this is bad for Dems but they are essentially standing up for their constituents. This is likely to fire up their base much like the healthcare bill did for the republicans. I see this as a good move for them politically.
    Yes, as I said, left wing shills will like this, but it isn't only the base that can get anyone elected. The independents aren't going to be impressed.
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post

    Yes, as I said, left wing shills will like this, but it isn't only the base that can get anyone elected. The independents aren't going to be impressed.
    Sixty-one percent of Americans surveyed for a USA Today/Gallup Poll said they would oppose a law in their own state similar to the one that has sparked massive protests in Wisconsin, while 33 percent said they would support such legislation. Six percent said they had no opinion.
    I'm sure there's some independents in that 61 percent...

    At least democrats and liberals aren't calling Walker a dictator simply cause he's doing something that doesn't poll well...



    It's like both sides completely switched places yet the only thing that's remained the same is that everyone is absolutely positive that the other side will destroy america...
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    uh that is so small as to be stupid. Do you want registration? given less than 3% of criminals get their guns from private sales, its pretty much a waste of resources
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    you are confused. I never denied that many criminals get guns in private sales.

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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Read the rules that govern the state legislatures in question and you can answer your own question with the facts.
    Better idea to just pass along what you know....Councilman, at least in Wisconsin, legislators can't fillibuster...which, in itself, is poor procedure. Soooo......off they go. When they forbade it, they tried to do the right, sensible thing.

    Guess if we ever get term limits (hahahaha!!), it'll be okay to avoid them if you change your name.
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by roughdraft274 View Post
    I'm sure there's some independents in that 61 percent...

    At least democrats and liberals aren't calling Walker a dictator simply cause he's doing something that doesn't poll well...
    What do you mean? It's not conservatives holding those signs.

    Regarding your poll, we've already talked about it in another thread. I could cite a few polls of my own.

    http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1141...218/unions.htm

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/122744/La...c-Support.aspx
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    First, Texas Democrats ran away in 2003. Then Wisconsin Democrats fled earlier this month. Now Indiana Democrats run away. I don't know about you, but I always thought a jackass couldn't move faster than a slow stroll. Apparently they run as fast as the wind.
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    44 - Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote -- like Wisconsin counterparts

    I think I know what Dems across the country are going to be known for this year. The campaign ads just write themselves don't they?
    It looks like states across the country need to enact laws that make it to where votes can still go on if politicians flee their state to prevent a vote. Although I somehow doubt that they will do that.


    Personally if I was republicans in those states I would be severely pissed at my elected officials for not using the option of fleeing the state to prevent legislation they opposed when the democrats had the majority.
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Wrong. They avoid a fight with the majority they can't win. It's not commendable, but it's not a solely Democrats tactic either.
    I think you're right. Seems to me that a few years back the GOP minority in one or more states pulled the same thing. I can't remember which states, but I do remember that I've been pissed off every time this tactic has been used, no matter which "side" was using it.

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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Spoken like a guy receiving a public pension.
    Hmm. I have a question here. If someone works all his life, he doesn't deserve a pension, if the pension comes from the public sector? The way I see it, he deserves a pension if he has worked in either the public or private sector.
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