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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    The Democrats shouldn't be leaving the state, but the Republicans have handled this whole situation badly. They got the majorities in Wisconsin, Indiana, and Ohio, and what did they do with it? They attempted to bulldoze the other side like thugs. In doing that, they started a war they could very well lose. They are already talking about recalling 7 GOP Senators in Wisconsin. This was the most ham-handed use of power I have ever seen. Not only that, but allowing themselves to be bankrolled by the infamous Koch Brothers? That was a huge mistake, as the opposition is now fired up like I haven't seen them in years, and they will now be able to get a lot of mileage out of their accusations of class warfare.

    The Republicans are like bulls in a china shop. They might have some good points to make, and good things to do, but that is all being drowned out by a war they were itching to fight. Well, they've now got their war, and public opinion is now turning against them in a very bad way.
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    So now it's the Dems who are the "Party of No" or actually the "Party of No Show".
    Hey, if thats what the democrats want to do, so be it. If they did what the electorate wanted them to do, or if they didn't, results will show come next election.
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gapeach View Post
    To me its a bit different. We get our senators from every state of the nation. WI gets their reps from...WI. I dont believe I have the words to express what I mean tonight, so I believe I am finished with at least this post for the night
    We get our senators from our country. I don't see it as any different, but I'll let you finish your thought whenever you get back.
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gapeach View Post
    I hope this doesn't surprise anyone.

    This is going to become the ploy of the democrats now when they arent the majority party anymore.

    How often has this happened?

    Itís a rare, but not an unheard-of, tactic, and fines have been a common response by the majority party. Hereís some history: In 2005, more than 130 bills died because of missed procedural deadlines when Democratic lawmakers boycotted the House for a day. In 1995, during a longer boycott, majority House Republicans fired back against boycotting Democrats by fining them an amount equal to the per diem, though they had refused their daily expenses while absent.

    In 1991, Democrats decided against censuring absent Republicans but issued fines equal to their per diem rate, plus a percentage of the daily salary of full-time House Republican staff members. The Republicans had already pledged to give up their per diems while gone. In 1975, Democrats passed a censure of boycotting Republicans, fining them $50 per day.

    Need-to-know: key Q&As on today's Statehouse exodus | The Indianapolis Star | indystar.com
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    44 - Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote -- like Wisconsin counterparts

    I think I know what Dems across the country are going to be known for this year. The campaign ads just write themselves don't they?
    ROTFLOL... you've gotta love it. You could play McCartney's Band on the Run to what's happening.

    Just think they are vacationing on the dime of the taxpayer when they should be in session casting critical votes.

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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Why don't they stay and fight for what they believe?

    It's because they are wrong and they can't justify what they do stand for.
    Wrong. They avoid a fight with the majority they can't win. It's not commendable, but it's not a solely Democrats tactic either.
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    And I wasn't making an appeal to authority, I was making an appeal to the philosophical body of work of the founders, the worth and content of which should be well-known to anyone with a cursory understanding of basic history and philosophy.

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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Why don't they stay and fight for what they believe?

    It's because they are wrong and they can't justify what they do stand for.
    Yes, and of course you were a big advocate that the Senate should move quickly to up and down votes and were equally aghast at all the nomination holds.... am I right?

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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Knowing they're going to lose is not a good reason to not show up to work.
    ... nor a good reason to filibuster... is that what you are saying since you want our legislators to cut right to the chase?

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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    I wonder if we are going to see more of this with redistricting later this year in Republican-controlled states?
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    Re: Indiana Democrats flee state legislature to avoid anti-union vote

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Spoken like a guy receiving a public pension.
    no ma'am...no pension here.

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