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Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

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Wisconsin Republicans are trying to lure Senate Democrats back to the state capital by scheduling a vote Tuesday on a controversial bill that would require voters to show photo ID before casting a ballot.
Democrats have fought the bill for years, arguing it would make it more difficult for minorities and elderly people to vote. But Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, a Republican, planned to push forward on the bill in Democrats' absence, scheduling a committee vote on the measure.
The gambit was a taunt aimed squarely at the 14 Senate Democrats who fled the capital last week to prevent Republicans from voting on a budget-fix bill which would cut deep into union benefits and rights. Republicans, who have 19 members in the Senate, would need 20 lawmakers present to have a quorum to pass a spending bill, so the Democratic boycott effectively halted debate on the budget bill. But they only need a simple majority of 17 lawmakers to pass non-spending items, such as the voter ID bill.

Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote - FoxNews.com

It looks like the Republicans are trying to lure the Dems to come back from fleeing the state by scheduling a vote on non-spending legislation that under senate laws the Republicans can vote on with a simple 17 majority present.
 
Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote - FoxNews.com

It looks like the Republicans are trying to lure the Dems to come back from fleeing the state by scheduling a vote on non-spending legislation that under senate laws the Republicans can vote on with a simple 17 majority present.

I doubt it will work. I would expect that the GOP already has enough votes to pass the voter ID bill without any Dem votes. Dems coming back would mean nothing to the outcome on this issue.
 
I doubt it will work. I would expect that the GOP already has enough votes to pass the voter ID bill without any Dem votes. Dems coming back would mean nothing to the outcome on this issue.

Who cares if it will work or not... really. This is the fight we wanted, and the Dems and their unions are doing just perfectly... beyond perfectly... they are clearly illustrating who they really are and what they are really about.

It is far beyond great. It is beyond awesome.

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So if you are an elderly lady living in a nursing home and don't have a picture ID you do not have constitutional rights?
 
So if you are an elderly lady living in a nursing home and don't have a picture ID you do not have constitutional rights?

Why wouldn't she have a picture ID?


Tim-
 
I hope the pass the voter ID bill. Although I am not sure this would bring the democrats back.
 
Why wouldn't she have a picture ID?


Tim-

Why would she have a picture ID? The only picture ID I have is a drivers license.
 
Why would she have a picture ID?

The same reason most people do. To write and cash checks, get benefits,somewhat proof that they are who they say they are and etc..
The only picture ID I have is a drivers license.

Would you have a picture id if you did not have a license?
 
So if you are an elderly lady living in a nursing home and don't have a picture ID you do not have constitutional rights?

Does that mean I shouldn't have to produce a picture ID to buy alcohol, or a firearm?
 
Does that mean I shouldn't have to produce a picture ID to buy alcohol, or a firearm?

Sure you do. So does the old lady or she could get her son to do it. Her son can't cast a vote for her, though.

She can prove who she is without a picture ID.
 
The same reason most people do. To write and cash checks, get benefits,somewhat proof that they are who they say they are and etc..


Would you have a picture id if you did not have a license?

Old people that don't drive don't always have picture IDs. My mother didn't drive and never had a picture ID right up until she died at 82.
Would you have a picture id if you did not have a license?
It's the only one I have.
 
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These are RARE exceptions USA-1... Either way, the law is still a good law in that it touches the 99.9% of people that it is intended too.


Tim-
 
Sure you do. So does the old lady or she could get her son to do it. Her son can't cast a vote for her, though.

She can prove who she is without a picture ID.

How's that? She has a tattoo on the inside of her upper lip?
 
How's that? She has a tattoo on the inside of her upper lip?

She had other forms of ID(SS card, credit card, library card, birth certificate) and people that would vouch for her. You do know that 40 years ago people didn't have photo IDs. How did they prove who they were back then?:roll: Tattoos on their upper lips?

I never had a photo ID until Wisconsin changed to photo drivers licenses in the 80s.
 
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Sure you do. So does the old lady or she could get her son to do it. Her son can't cast a vote for her, though.

She can prove who she is without a picture ID.

How?

I strongly support photo IDs for voting. If you don't have a driver's license, most (if not all) DMVs also issue non-driver's license ID cards...
 
How?

I strongly support photo IDs for voting. If you don't have a driver's license, most (if not all) DMVs also issue non-driver's license ID cards...
The same ways they proved their identity before picture IDs 40 years ago.
 
Old people that don't drive don't always have picture IDs. My mother didn't drive and never had a picture ID right up until she died at 82.

Many people do need IDs to cash checks, apply for benignity or other situations that require that the prove who they are? A ID card in Wisconsin that expires in 8 years costs 28$. People can afford 28 dollars once every 8 years. In my state a ID card that expires in 4 years is 10 dollars.


Driver licensing fees - Wisconsin Department of Transportation
Oklahoma Identification Card

It's the only one I have.
Would you get a regular state issue ID if you did not have a driver's license?
 
Many people do need IDs to cash checks, apply for benignity or other situations that require that the prove who they are? A ID card in Wisconsin that expires in 8 years costs 28$. People can afford 28 dollars once every 8 years. In my state a ID card that expires in 4 years is 10 dollars.


Driver licensing fees - Wisconsin Department of Transportation
Oklahoma Identification Card


Would you get a regular state issue ID if you did not have a driver's license?

I would, but it's not so easy for some elderly people and why should their constitutional rights be denied just because they don't have a picture ID?
 
I would, but it's not so easy for some elderly people and why should their constitutional rights be denied just because they don't have a picture ID?

In order to prevent voter fraud. Frankly, no ones rights are being taken away. All they have to do is get an id...
 
In order to prevent voter fraud. Frankly, no ones rights are being taken away. All they have to do is get an id...

Forcing people to get a picture ID in order to vote? Whatever did they do before picture IDs were invented?
 
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Forcing people to get a picture ID in order to vote? Whatever did they do before picture IDs were invented?

My first drivers license photo was in cuneiform, if that helps any.
 
I would, but it's not so easy for some elderly people and why should their constitutional rights be denied just because they don't have a picture ID?

A person needs to prove their eligibility to those rights. Our constitutional rights do not encompass the globe. They are not being denied those rights if they prove they are entitled to those rights.
 
Why would she have a picture ID? The only picture ID I have is a drivers license.


OMG! I am going to incorperate this as my sig line with your permission...LOL!

j-mac
 
OMG! I am going to incorperate this as my sig line with your permission...LOL!

j-mac

In your world do all elderly people in nursing homes have drivers licenses?
 
This is entirely political. Voter fraud is committed by those that count the votes and run the polls not by the voters. How many people would go to the trouble of registering under two different names and addresses just to vote twice. Heck, a large number of Americans don't even vote once. There is no great conspiracy to stuff the ballot boxes by people that vote more than once.
This bill is just to keep more people, the elderly and poor, from voting. Just who are these people allegedly voting more than once and is there enough of them to make a difference?
 
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