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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    How'd you get one the first time? LOL

    Birth certificate, social security card, credit cards......you can get one if you go through the proper channels. And I'd bet less than 1% of the elderly doesn't have some sort of photo ID.

    So you want just anyone to be able to walk up and vote? Typical.
    No, but you just have proven one does not have to have a photo ID to prove who you are. Now do you understand?
    So its OK to deny that 1% because they don't have a photo ID?

    What's 1% of 20 million?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Wow. A couple people committed voter fraud and got caught.

    I have a question for you, Einstein.
    How does one get a photo ID if they don't have a photo ID proving who they are in the first place?

    No one should be forced to pay a fee to vote. And having to purchase a photo ID is paying a fee. It's not fair to everyone.
    Ahhh, so you went to "never happens" to sometimes happens.....

    You know that I could dig up a bunch more of these cases. They are fairly common.

    By the way, subtle insults like the one you threw are frowned upon here.

    How did you get your first photo id ??? No one is "forced" to pay for a photo id. All of the states that have passed laws requiring photo ids provide them free of charge to people that can't afford to buy one.

    Any more specious objections ????

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahhh, so you went to "never happens" to sometimes happens.....

    You know that I could dig up a bunch more of these cases. They are fairly common.

    By the way, subtle insults like the one you threw are frowned upon here.

    How did you get your first photo id ??? No one is "forced" to pay for a photo id. All of the states that have passed laws requiring photo ids provide them free of charge to people that can't afford to buy one.

    Any more specious objections ????
    So how can you prove your identity to get a photo ID if you don't have a photo ID? Your arguments are ridiculous. The same ID to get a photo ID should be sufficent to prove who you are to vote.

    You want a 95 year old guy in a wheel chair and on oxygen to make his way up to the DMV to get a photo ID? Why not just use the identification he has to get the ID to vote?

    Photo ID requirements are just going to keep people that don't have them from voting. Other forms of ID are used to get photo IDs. Those forms are sufficient to vote.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    No, but you just have proven one does not have to have a photo ID to prove who you are. Now do you understand?
    So its OK to deny that 1% because they don't have a photo ID?

    What's 1% of 20 million?
    So if you don't have the initiative to get a photo ID, then you don't get to vote. Period. Why is this so hard to understand?

    If you have the initiative to go to the voting booth, you should have it to get an ID.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    So if you don't have the initiative to get a photo ID, then you don't get to vote. Period. Why is this so hard to understand?

    If you have the initiative to go to the voting booth, you should have it to get an ID.
    Why can't they use the same ID that they used to get the photo ID to vote? Why is that so hard to understand? People were not born with photo IDs. Other forms of ID were used to get the photo IDs. Why are they sufficient to get a photo ID, but not to vote? Don't you guys get it?
    Having restrictions to vote is unconstitutional. Forcing everyone to get a photo ID big government politics.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    So how can you prove your identity to get a photo ID if you don't have a photo ID? Your arguments are ridiculous. The same ID to get a photo ID should be sufficent to prove who you are to vote.

    You want a 95 year old guy in a wheel chair and on oxygen to make his way up to the DMV to get a photo ID? Why not just use the identification he has to get the ID to vote?

    Photo ID requirements are just going to keep people that don't have them from voting. Other forms of ID are used to get photo IDs. Those forms are sufficient to vote.
    How did the 95 year old guy in a wheelchair and on oxygen get to the county clerk's office to get registered to vote ???

    How did the 95 year old guy in a wheelchair and on oxygen get to the poll to vote ??

    Would it make you feel better if the 95 year old guy was required to bring his birth certificate, social security card, a credit card, and a utility bill proving where he lives every time he votes ????

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    How did the 95 year old guy in a wheelchair and on oxygen get to the county clerk's office to get registered to vote ???

    How did the 95 year old guy in a wheelchair and on oxygen get to the poll to vote ??

    Would it make you feel better if the 95 year old guy was required to bring his birth certificate, social security card, a credit card, and a utility bill proving where he lives every time he votes ????
    Why is non photo identification good enough to get a photo ID but not good enough to vote? Don't you people get it? Identities are established for photo IDs from nonphoto forms of identification. If they are good enough to get a photo ID then they are good enough to vote.
    Where do you people think photo IDs come from?

    It cost 28 bucks for a photo ID in Wisconsin.
    Yes I would feel better. He won't have to pay to vote.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Why is non photo identification good enough to get a photo ID but not good enough to vote? Don't you people get it? Identities are established for photo IDs from nonphoto forms of identification. If they are good enough to get a photo ID then they are good enough to vote.
    Where do you people think photo IDs come from?
    I'll ask you again since you ignored it the first time, would you prefer the 95 year old man bring all the id necessary to get a photo id every time he votes ???

    Or would it be simpler to get a free photo id one time and be done with it ??

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Why can't they use the same ID that they used to get the photo ID to vote?
    Simple. It's a hell of a lot easier to train someone to recognize a fake state ID photo than it is to train them to recognize fake birth certificates from 50 states. Remember...each state has different formats for thier BC.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Simple. It's a hell of a lot easier to train someone to recognize a fake state ID photo than it is to train them to recognize fake birth certificates from 50 states. Remember...each state has different formats for thier BC.
    Oh, so to make it easier for some government worker at the expense of the voter? Most elderly people don't fake their birth certificates so they can vote twice. This law is stupid and will keep people from voting. Is that the intent?
    This is just more big government BS.
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