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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

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    Forcing people to get a picture ID in order to vote? Whatever did they do before picture IDs were invented?
    My first drivers license photo was in cuneiform, if that helps any.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    I would, but it's not so easy for some elderly people and why should their constitutional rights be denied just because they don't have a picture ID?
    A person needs to prove their eligibility to those rights. Our constitutional rights do not encompass the globe. They are not being denied those rights if they prove they are entitled to those rights.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    Why would she have a picture ID? The only picture ID I have is a drivers license.

    OMG! I am going to incorperate this as my sig line with your permission...LOL!

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

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    OMG! I am going to incorperate this as my sig line with your permission...LOL!

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    In your world do all elderly people in nursing homes have drivers licenses?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    This is entirely political. Voter fraud is committed by those that count the votes and run the polls not by the voters. How many people would go to the trouble of registering under two different names and addresses just to vote twice. Heck, a large number of Americans don't even vote once. There is no great conspiracy to stuff the ballot boxes by people that vote more than once.
    This bill is just to keep more people, the elderly and poor, from voting. Just who are these people allegedly voting more than once and is there enough of them to make a difference?
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    This is entirely political. Voter fraud is committed by those that count the votes and run the polls not by the voters. How many people would go to the trouble of registering under two different names and addresses just to vote twice. Heck, a large number of Americans don't even vote once. There is no great conspiracy to stuff the ballot boxes by people that vote more than once.
    This bill is just to keep more people, the elderly and poor, from voting. Just who are these people allegedly voting more than once and is there enough of them to make a difference?
    Honest question for you. If my memory serves me the elderly as a group tend to vote more heavily republican than democrat, so why in the world would you suggest the reason be that Republicans would be specifically trying to keep the elderly from voting?

    Really, if there's one group that this is specifically aimed at its illegal immigrants.

    However its primary purpose isn't even teh bill itself, but attempting to use a controversial issue to get Democrats back into the building.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    This is truly a "fencepost" argument. This is so incredibly and basically practical and sensible, it boggles the mind how someone could argue it.

    Anyone can get a picture ID card, whether they drive or not.

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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    I would, but it's not so easy for some elderly people and
    Why would it not be easy for elderly people to get IDs? 10- 28 dollars is easy for people to get. Heck some states don't even make seniors pay for IDs.

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    why should their constitutional rights be denied just because they don't have a picture ID?
    The right to vote does not say shall not infringe on it. While various amendments covering the right to vote, these amendments only list what infringements you can not impose and list who can vote. Section 2 of the 14th amendment ,section 1 of the 15th amendment ,19th amendment , and section 1 of the 23rd,24th and 26th amendments basically states who can vote,what you can vote in and what you can not use deny those people the right to vote. A ID requirement is not a violation of any of these amendments.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    This is truly a "fencepost" argument. This is so incredibly and basically practical and sensible, it boggles the mind how someone could argue it.

    Anyone can get a picture ID card, whether they drive or not.
    You been to a nursing home lately? This law will keep old folks from voting.
    How many people voted more than once in the last election? Were there any? This is just political.
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    Re: Wisconsin Republicans Try to Lure Back Dems By Scheduling Controversial Vote

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Honest question for you. If my memory serves me the elderly as a group tend to vote more heavily republican than democrat, so why in the world would you suggest the reason be that Republicans would be specifically trying to keep the elderly from voting?

    Really, if there's one group that this is specifically aimed at its illegal immigrants.

    However its primary purpose isn't even teh bill itself, but attempting to use a controversial issue to get Democrats back into the building.
    Do you people honestly believe illegal aliens would risk being caught and deported just to cast a vote? Give me a break. You do know you have to register in order to vote. You need to give your name, address and how long you've lived in your city. Illegals stay away from polls.
    How many illegals voted in the last election?

    Elderly people vote for candidates that support medicare and Social Security.


    Voter fraud is committed by the vote counters and poll workers, not the voters. That's a myth.
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