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BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

I think the notion itself is a false premise, I don't believe anyone has proposed that.

Anyhow - further reports from the area now show conflicting stories about who fired first.

Let's be sure to give the Somalian pirates any benefit of the doubt.
 
What were they doing off the coast of East Africa?
 
I know about the arguments about the particulars and the arguments about the particulars about the arguments, but I would only say one thing.

I know Christian missionaries, some of them have been very good dear friends with little more thoughts than Christ and their families. It would be hard for me to even stand hearing such utterances knowing it was them caught in crossfire.
 
YYou advocate random bomings rather than actually targeting just the pirates, which is just stupid and will make more people turn to piracy.

Hahaha...it's the Israeli method of dealing with "terrorists".
 
Hahaha...it's the Israeli method of dealing with "terrorists".

No, no it's not, the Israeli method like the American one is to target militants. I would simply ask you to take your anti-Israeli propaganda elsewhere as clearly this thread is no place for it.
 
No, no it's not, the Israeli method like the American one is to target militants. I would simply ask you to take your anti-Israeli propaganda elsewhere as clearly this thread is no place for it.

I would simply ask you take your anti-reality propaganda elsewhere. But that probably ain't gonna happen, so cram it with walnuts.

It wasn't anti-Israeli by the way, I know, I know. Someone said something that maybe could possibly be seen as criticism against Israel. But criticism doesn't necessarily equate to being against something. But nice knee-jerk reaction, but next time try to use intelligence.

As for this story, there's relatively no point to it. 4 Americans died by Somali Pirates. They knew the pirates were out there, they took the risk, this was one of the possible outcomes. Pirates are dead now, America will step up enforcement, and that's that.
 
I would simply ask you take your anti-reality propaganda elsewhere. But that probably ain't gonna happen, so cram it with walnuts.

It wasn't anti-Israeli by the way, I know, I know. Someone said something that maybe could possibly be seen as criticism against Israel. But criticism doesn't necessarily equate to being against something. But nice knee-jerk reaction, but next time try to use intelligence.

As for this story, there's relatively no point to it. 4 Americans died by Somali Pirates. They knew the pirates were out there, they took the risk, this was one of the possible outcomes. Pirates are dead now, America will step up enforcement, and that's that.

Yes yes criticism of Israel, I know the story already, however criticism needs to be based on truth while yours was an empty statement that is based on 100% pure ignorance.
It's no more criticism of Israel than claiming that America is murdering innocent Afghans and Iraqis is a criticism of the American government.

However that's of course not what your propaganda got called "anti-Israeli" for, and rather the way you've posted it in a thread that has nothing, but nothing to do with it. That's disgusting.
 
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100% pure ignorance eh? So Israel has never bombed civilian apartment complexes. Oh, I see, they claimed there was a terrorist in there (they never got that guy...did they?) and bombed the **** out of civilian areas. That way you can claim they were "targeting militants", right? No weddings or picnics or any civilian area has ever been destroyed, encroached upon, taken over, or otherwise violently disrupted by Israel, right? Such a peace loving place? Or...or, is that based on ignorance and propaganda. See, the results are the same. They do not care if civilians are mixed in, there's no methodology used to decrease civilian causality. So don't think you're better because when y'all kill civilians you claimed there was a militant somewhere in the bodies. The end result is the same.

That is why you're propaganda sucks. You need to employ some intellect. The lack of which, now that's disgusting. But you can sit there with your faux-indignation or you can get back on target to the pirates.
 
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It was a passing comment made partially in jest which you got a stick up your ass about. I suggest that in the future, perhaps leave passing comments lie. Yes? Maybe not, I think the stick up your ass has a stick up its ass.
 
This is the fault of every country and business that caves into ransom demands.

Are you sure it's not the fault of the pirates? And in this case, there was no caving because we fired on them after they took the hostages. At least, I think that's what was written in the article.
 
Number 1 doesn't even matter.
Somali Pirates are not religious, they care about money. They'd host the Pope himself if it got them ransom.

Number 2 is the reason why.
US killed the Somali Pirates a while ago and an edict was sent out to all Pirates. Any and all Americans captured will be killed on the spot in revenge.

Well, it looks like we got some more pirates to kill.

There were 15 prisoners taken, when the Navy boarded the yacht. They should all be executed, immediately.
 
Are you sure it's not the fault of the pirates? And in this case, there was no caving because we fired on them after they took the hostages. At least, I think that's what was written in the article.

The pirates are mostly to blame.However logic dictates that if countries and companies keep paying ransoms then kidnapping is profitable, thus they are encouraged because of these countries and companies to kidnap even more people.
 
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I have been over it a million times in your other Pirate thread.

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Incorrect.
Sure, poverty can be used as a excuse now. But that is not how "piracy" began.
It was fishermen who were having their livelihood taken away from them by other
countries llegally dumping and fishing in Somali waters and took their money, so they armed themselves to ward them off.
Hence why Somalis call them coast guards. Not Pirates.
I consider the Pirates those who enter Somalia's waters to fish our god given natural resources and dump their crap in Somali waters. They thought no one would do anything.

Somalis did and now the world is getting pissy. Please.
I support those coast guards who operate in Somali waters and always will.

It's always someone else's fault. :rofl
 
you think there are two different kinds of pirates? ones that are concious of a 12 mile limit, and others who don't care? really?

Yes I do.
Unlike probably everyone in this thread, I have met and spoken to members of both of these groups in my trips to my country.

The ones who do it for greed. The pirates are the ones who have their disgusting prostitutes, alcohol, who waste the ransom money on huge houses (You won't believe how OTT some of them are) but stash enough to bribe off the "Governments" and officials. And enough to quieten up the local population

The coast guards are those who are more humble with their ransom money. They use it to compensate those fishermen who have lost out, they build the schools and hospitals and roads in North Somalia.

Yes. I do recognize the difference and I do support one of them. One acted out of desperation and a last resort because it was the only way to protect themselves in the face of the rest of the world turning their back on it. The other started it because of the money involved and the rewards outweighed the risks
 
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Well, it looks like we got some more pirates to kill.

There were 15 prisoners taken, when the Navy boarded the yacht. They should all be executed, immediately.

There'll be a great deal of disappointment if they aren't.
 
Are you essentially saying you have theives and then you have robin hood types? Ones who care about their own personal wealth, and others who feel they're protecting their waters and the people who have sunk into poverty due to their livelihood (fishing the waters) has been severely damaged?
 
Yes I do.
Unlike probably everyone in this thread, I have met and spoken to members of both of these groups in my trips to my country.

The ones who do it for greed. The pirates are the ones who have their disgusting prostitutes, alcohol, who waste the ransom money on huge houses (You won't believe how OTT some of them are) but stash enough to bribe off the "Governments" and officials. And enough to quieten up the local population

The coast guards are those who are more humble with their ransom money. They use it to compensate those fishermen who have lost out, they build the schools and hospitals and roads in North Somalia.

Yes. I do recognize the difference and I do support one of them. One acted out of desperation and a last resort because it was the only way to protect themselves in the face of the rest of the world turning their back on it. The other started it because of the money involved and the rewards outweighed the risks

Both are illegal. Both should be met with a maximum amount of violence.
 
Both are illegal. Both should be met with a maximum amount of violence.

Prepare to be disappointed

Pirates and the Coast Guards are here to stay.
 
Yes I do.
Unlike probably everyone in this thread, I have met and spoken to members of both of these groups in my trips to my country.

The ones who do it for greed. The pirates are the ones who have their disgusting prostitutes, alcohol, who waste the ransom money on huge houses (You won't believe how OTT some of them are) but stash enough to bribe off the "Governments" and officials. And enough to quieten up the local population by funding food/hospitals.

The coast guards are those who are more humble with their ransom money. They use it to compensate those fishermen who have lost out, they build the schools and hospitals and roads in North Somalia.

Yes. I do recognize the difference and I do support one of them. One acted out of desperation and a last resort because it was the only way to protect themselves in the fact of the rest of the world turning their back on it. The other started it because of the money involved and the rewards outweighed the risks

A Somalian supporting piracy. How unusual.

The rest of the world turned its back on Somalia?

Recall what happened when the Americans tried to bring aid to that sphincter??
 
Well, it looks like we got some more pirates to kill.

There were 15 prisoners taken, when the Navy boarded the yacht. They should all be executed, immediately.

They should throw them in jail, however as I understand it there is no place where the Somali pirates can be trialed so they are usually released after a while.
A UN report has suggested in the past to establish such place, but it doesn't seem like the report was taken into consideration.
 
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