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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    And unless you provide explanation I must say you are making yourself very easy to ignore with those kind of "debate skills".

    The cause is the povetry of the Somali citizens, and that is the responsibility of the Somali government, not the American one.
    The Ameircan government has however an obligation to maintain the security of its citizens at home and abroad.
    I have been over it a million times in your other Pirate thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    For normal people perhaps.

    For individuals in a country which has seen nothing but death for a few decades and a generation who has been raised around it as a norm? I doubt it.
    Piracy will not stop without the root causes solved.
    Incorrect.
    Sure, poverty can be used as a excuse now. But that is not how "piracy" began.
    It was fishermen who were having their livelihood taken away from them by other
    countries llegally dumping and fishing in Somali waters and took their money, so they armed themselves to ward them off.
    Hence why Somalis call them coast guards. Not Pirates.
    I consider the Pirates those who enter Somalia's waters to fish our god given natural resources and dump their crap in Somali waters. They thought no one would do anything.

    Somalis did and now the world is getting pissy. Please.
    I support those coast guards who operate in Somali waters and always will.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    We needs hugs and money, maybe then they will stop
    Maybe President Obama can send them the unicorns and rainbows we never got

    They could eat the unicorns, thus ending the hunger issues... and follow the rainbows to the pot of gold, thus ending their money worries.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I support those coast guards who operate in Somali waters and always will.
    So, you support the killing of unarmed, Christian missionaries?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    countries llegally dumping and fishing in Somali waters and took their money, so they armed themselves to ward them off.
    Now this, I agree with. As much as I'm not keen to the organization, could the Somali's not bring issue to the UN concerning any proof of countries illegally acting within their waters?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i know.....and it's why u.s. citizens should not be allowed to travel in those waters.
    Why was those Americans near Somali waters?

    Talk about crazy. Wow.
    It's like those Americans who back packed across Iran


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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Now this, I agree with. As much as I'm not keen to the organization, could the Somali's not bring issue to the UN concerning any proof of countries illegally acting within their waters?
    The UN is only as effective as the sovereignty provided to it by its member nations (which means not a whole damn lot). This is why we have ad hoc anti-piracy forces operating in the area under the banner of their own countries rather than a dedicated international force.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Now this, I agree with. As much as I'm not keen to the organization, could the Somali's not bring issue to the UN concerning any proof of countries illegally acting within their waters?
    It did. Somaliland as well have stated it. So did Puntland
    They have been saying it for decades that countries were exploiting Somali waters.

    US ignored. Europe refused to budge and Asia because it was their companies primarily responsible for it.
    They didn't do anything. If US, Europe, Asia ignore. UN does nothing

    So the fishermen took it upon themselves to protect Somali waters and it has been fed by greed. It's original cause was noble to me.


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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    So, you support the killing of unarmed, Christian missionaries?
    Considering the vessel wasn't illegally dumping nor fishing in Somali waters and I believe was captured outside of Somali territory my guess would be no.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    So, you support the killing of unarmed, Christian missionaries?
    They weren't in Somali waters.
    They weren't fishing.
    They weren't dumping
    They are not a rich company or from one of the countries responsible.

    They should have been released. So no.


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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    why not do the same thing that cops do? Use a 'bait boat'.

    Have a remotely controlled boat followed by a sub. The pirates board the boat... discover it empty... and the sub takes out the boat while the pirates are abord. Do that enough times, and maybe the piracy will at least slow.
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