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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Why was those Americans near Somali waters?

    Talk about crazy. Wow.
    It's like those Americans who back packed across Iran
    They weren't. They were 1500 miles from Somalia. As as for your other claim that "Somalians have a shoot on sight order for Americans" these stupid pirates didn't get the message. They tooled around for four days demanding money from the American navy ship that was shadowing them.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Wow. I guess I should have read the whole thread before responding. After the first page, the only mention of the people who were murdered has been to counter arguments about how stupid they were to be there. Well, they were there. It was their life's dream to spend 10 years sailing around the globe, seeing places, meeting people. By all accounts they were lovely individuals who did not deserve to be hijacked and slaughtered by some 20 criminals. Somali pirates have blanketed the entire ocean from north Africa almost to the coast of India. There is no way to get anywhere by boat in that part of the world without going through waters stalked by Somali pirates.

    These weren't stupid people. They didn't deserve their life's dream to be ended in a bloodbath.

    That is all.
    Last edited by DiAnna; 02-23-11 at 01:44 AM.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    They weren't. They were 1500 miles from Somalia. As as for your other claim that "Somalians have a shoot on sight order for Americans" these stupid pirates didn't get the message. They tooled around for four days demanding money from the American navy ship that was shadowing them.
    Haven't you heard? Everywhere is Somali waters and is justification for Somalis killing people, especially if they kill Americans.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Haven't you heard? Everywhere is Somali waters and is justification for Somalis killing people, especially if they kill Americans.
    So who said that?
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    So who said that?
    No one, he's misinterpenting Laila's words. She didn't refer to murder specifically, nor did she refer to the American nationality specifically. She merely said that she approves of disgusting immoral crime against innocent victims who pass through that area and that she supports people who engage in crime against innocent victims to support the Somali people, who she calls "the coast guards".
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    No one, he's misinterpenting Laila's words. She didn't refer to murder specifically, nor did she refer to the American nationality specifically. She merely said that she approves of disgusting immoral crime against innocent victims who pass through that area and that she supports people who engage in crime against innocent victims to support the Somali people, who she calls "the coast guards".
    I can't believe after she's explained herself and Zyphlin clarified for Rev that you're still deliberately spinning Laila's words to a false meaning. I've had my disagreements with you befor Apocalypse but you were always more honest than this. She's even bothered to explain the "coast guards" vs "pirates" to you and you even discussed the difference with her.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    She's said it numerous times on this forum
    You're doing it too. Can you post an example please?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    -- Pirate hideouts.
    They don't look like the one you see in Hollywood films, the country has been flattened by wars, the coastal towns were flattened by the 2004 tsunami. Lobbing a few cruise missiles is more likely to prettify the place up than hit any legitimate targets. Bomb some villages and kill innocents and all you do is create more pirates this time with a real hatred for Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    -- Somali pirates have blanketed the entire ocean from north Africa almost to the coast of India. There is no way to get anywhere by boat in that part of the world without going through waters stalked by Somali pirates.
    I'm wiling to bet that some boats are non Somali pirates, other Africans will have seen that they can make a fast buck holding ships to ransom.

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    --These weren't stupid people. They didn't deserve their life's dream to be ended in a bloodbath.
    Very true, it's hard to see the reason they sailed into dangerous waters. Other pleasure crews have started avoiding the whole area and it will start affecting tourism. We have to go back to Don Sutherland's post to look at the realistic options - one of which includes cleaning up all the toxic waste dumped there but also includes coastline nations in the area acting together to ruthlessly target the pirates. America may or may not have the sea power to police the area but it can't be everywhere especially when individual boats ignore intrnational warnings.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    12 miles is the range for security issues

    200 miles or so is the range for exclusive economic activity. Some are extending it towards the contentental shelf. But just going with the 200 mile economic exclusive range would mean the Somalis as compensation for theft and illegal dumping should enforce a "tax" on all ships passing within that range of the coast
    +10000

    It has been a calculated a loss from Somalia's economy and resources up to 300 million a year.
    Now calculate that 300 million by almost 2 decades.

    Pirates (both types) are only getting 100 million from ransoms every year. It's going to be a longggg time before we break even with what was stolen with us so to think about it, the rest of the world is still doing pretty well for itself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    I'm wiling to bet that some boats are non Somali pirates, other Africans will have seen that they can make a fast buck holding ships to ransom.
    Have I told you before how brilliantly astute you are. Our lovely neighbors get in on the action and get a piece of the pie
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Of course not. But you're just proving my point that you don't understand what I'm talking about. There's something called a national consciousness, a national awareness. It's a real thing, and it's a powerful concept. I wasn't alive during the Blitz, but my father was, as was his father, and my uncles, and my aunts, and my neighbours, and their parents, and my co-workers' parents. It is real to us, it's not just some story like it is to you guys.

    But you don't know what I'm talking about.
    If I remember my history, the US stayed out of WWII. We didn't want any trouble. My parents are German immigrants, pal. I think they knew what WWII was because they lived it.
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