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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, they should board and murder people on all ships passing within 200 miles of their coast?
    Did you not read his post?

    But just going with the 200 mile economic exclusive range would mean the Somalis as compensation for theft and illegal dumping should enforce a "tax" on all ships passing within that range of the coast
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    I will never own a fire arm as long as I live, so this doesn't matter to me. I doubt I'll ever own any kind of combat knife either.
    good. I hope those who do will treat you not too harshly



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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah and I have a safe full of US, Austrian, German, Russian, Bulgarian, Polish, Brazilian, and Belgium military rifles.

    and i carry a Sig 40 and a Smith and wesson 38 revolver

    and while I wouldn't do it, I can walk down my street pretending to be Heinrich Himmler, goose step and all-and not be jailed

    I can walk around with an automatic stilleto clipped to my pocket without worry of arrest

    i understand you cannot even own a 4 lock back knife in England anymore


    or bash gays and not have to attend what most would call "reeducation" camps.


    I sort of like our freedoms over londons
    Turtle Dude, we've had several discussions about gun control, you've never once given me any facts to dispute the universally-accepted rule that tighter gun control decreases violent gun crime.

    As far as goose-stepping down Piccadilly goes, I'll put that one down to American ignorance. Many Americans don't understand or feel history like we do. Americans are naive in their worldview. To many Americans, history is just a course they take in school where they learn dates about some old dudes who died a long time ago, blah blah blah. To us, goose-stepping down Piccadilly brings back memories of when the Nazis levelled half of London in the Blitz, only a couple generations ago. Americans can't understand that -- I bet you don't know anyone who died in the Second World War, or in Flanders in the First World War, or in the Transvaal at the edges of the Earth against the Boers. And if you do, your neighbour probably doesn't. But we do. It's real to us, not just some story. You see the ability to cry "Heil Hitler" and flash the Roman Salute in public as a 'freedom' -- we see it as a hate crime, because that's what it is, here, to us.


    Now, with that said, two things:

    One, I'm well aware of the difference between de jure mandates and de facto laws -- you live in Ohio. Whatever the law says, if you step out of your house strapped with an AK, the police will be called, and you'll be detained. I'll bet you my salary on that.

    Secondly, pray tell where you heard about these 'reeducation camps', and link me some sources.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    lets play who knows more about the real world.

    your ranting about america sounds like the crap I hear from rich college kids who are trying to piss their parents off because their parents won't buy them a Mercedes or send them skiing in the Alps

    the question is still pending
    I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, they should board and murder people on all ships passing within 200 miles of their coast?
    Where did I say murder

    I said board the ships and impose a tax

    The ship and crew remain prisoners untill the tax is paid

    Heck the US used to engage in similar acts in the 1800s
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Turtle Dude, we've had several discussions about gun control, you've never once given me any facts to dispute the universally-accepted rule that tighter gun control decreases violent gun crime.
    And what about non-gun violent crimes?
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Turtle Dude, we've had several discussions about gun control, you've never once given me any facts to dispute the universally-accepted rule that tighter gun control decreases violent gun crime.

    As far as goose-stepping down Piccadilly goes, I'll put that one down to American ignorance. Many Americans don't understand or feel history like we do. Americans are naive in their worldview. To many Americans, history is just a course they take in school where they learn dates about some old dudes who died a long time ago, blah blah blah. To us, goose-stepping down Piccadilly brings back memories of when the Nazis levelled half of London in the Blitz, only a couple generations ago. Americans can't understand that -- I bet you don't know anyone who died in the Second World War, or in Flanders in the First World War, or in the Transvaal at the edges of the Earth against the Boers. And if you do, your neighbour probably doesn't. But we do. It's real to us, not just some story. You see the ability to cry "Heil Hitler" and flash the Roman Salute in public as a 'freedom' -- we see it as a hate crime, because that's what it is, here, to us.


    Now, with that said, two things:

    One, I'm well aware of the difference between de jure mandates and de facto laws -- you live in Ohio. Whatever the law says, if you step out of your house strapped with an AK, the police will be called, and you'll be detained. I'll bet you my salary on that.

    Secondly, pray tell where you heard about these 'reeducation camps', and link me some sources.
    1) NO STUDY dealing with America has ever found that gun restrictions decrease Crime in our nation. the closest that they could come was finding that perhaps suicides among the moderately elderly was somewhat decreased

    2) Freedom is more important to me than nanny state safety

    3) I am outside my house plenty of times with an AK-at the range, gun shops etc
    you cannot own a handgun in England because you all crapped your pants over one nutcase killing people
    yet that law didn't stop crime-it just ruined the hobby of thousands of sport shooters. Your olympic team pistol shooters cannot even train in England


    I find it interesting that american politics boards attract many eurosocialists-I don't know anyone who wastes time in my country on some eurosocialist board. I guess that means my country matter so much more to you all than yours do to us



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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) NO STUDY dealing with America has ever found that gun restrictions decrease Crime in our nation. the closest that they could come was finding that perhaps suicides among the moderately elderly was somewhat decreased

    2) Freedom is more important to me than nanny state safety

    3) I am outside my house plenty of times with an AK-at the range, gun shops etc
    you cannot own a handgun in England because you all crapped your pants over one nutcase killing people
    yet that law didn't stop crime-it just ruined the hobby of thousands of sport shooters. Your olympic team pistol shooters cannot even train in England


    I find it interesting that american politics boards attract many eurosocialists-I don't know anyone who wastes time in my country on some eurosocialist board. I guess that means my country matter so much more to you all than yours do to us
    1) You can believe what you want, then. I think even if I gave you more evidence, you'd blatantly deny it.

    2) You've proven my point. You don't understand that there's a boundary between freedom and excess, and you think any excess ought be protected by a right to freedom. That's sad.

    3) Actually, this one's just a bit of fearmongering on FOX News's part, methinks. They can indeed train in England, and you can indeed go to a range and shoot in England -- you just can't take those guns home with you.

    4) How would you know? You've never been to a European debate board anyway. Either way, I might point out the statistic that always gets you racist Americans fuming -- since 2001, more white (European-descended) Americans have been immigrating to Europe, than Europeans immigrating to America. Hablo espanol, senor?

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    1) I find it interesting that american politics boards attract many eurosocialists-I don't know anyone who wastes time in my country on some eurosocialist board. I guess that means my country matter so much more to you all than yours do to us
    I don't know how to even begin to tell you how flawed your logic is right there.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Turtle Dude, we've had several discussions about gun control, you've never once given me any facts to dispute the universally-accepted rule that tighter gun control decreases violent gun crime.

    As far as goose-stepping down Piccadilly goes, I'll put that one down to American ignorance. Many Americans don't understand or feel history like we do. Americans are naive in their worldview. To many Americans, history is just a course they take in school where they learn dates about some old dudes who died a long time ago, blah blah blah. To us, goose-stepping down Piccadilly brings back memories of when the Nazis levelled half of London in the Blitz, only a couple generations ago. Americans can't understand that -- I bet you don't know anyone who died in the Second World War, or in Flanders in the First World War, or in the Transvaal at the edges of the Earth against the Boers. And if you do, your neighbour probably doesn't. But we do. It's real to us, not just some story. You see the ability to cry "Heil Hitler" and flash the Roman Salute in public as a 'freedom' -- we see it as a hate crime, because that's what it is, here, to us.


    Now, with that said, two things:

    One, I'm well aware of the difference between de jure mandates and de facto laws -- you live in Ohio. Whatever the law says, if you step out of your house strapped with an AK, the police will be called, and you'll be detained. I'll bet you my salary on that.

    Secondly, pray tell where you heard about these 'reeducation camps', and link me some sources.
    As though you had any memories like that, you'd be in your 80's? Are you in your 80's?
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