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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Besides, I don't understand why were 4 American civilians touring around the Somali coasts with no armed escort. Citizens who want to pass through that area should be legally forced to be escorted by armed security personnel.
    That was my first thought. What the hell were they thinking? No one can be sailing in that area unaware of the threat of pirates. Either they were incredibly stupid, or they had some powerful, driving reason to be there that overrode concerns for their own safety.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Y'know, you're a bit of a douche, for, ironically, two reasons 1) My brother's a Christian missionary, so I find your statement offensive, and 2) You advocate random bomings rather than actually targeting just the pirates, which is just stupid and will make more people turn to piracy.
    You shouldn't be in Somalia because of terrorism issues and the fact that, uhm, it has no visible government. Going there as a Christian missionary? Not so clever. Secondly, the US uses drones in Pakistan because there are pockets of areas where terrorists have a visible and dominant presence. Same goes for Somalia, but pirates too. At least Pakistan is functioning to an extend as an elected government.

    Otherwise, insensitive and stupid post.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    1) unarmed vessels traveling near Somalia is akin to a guy wearing a 3000 dollar suit and a Rolex watch walking in the South Bronx or East LA at 2 AM. doesn't mean they deserve to get robbed or killed but you have to say STUPID

    2) the captured pirates are not entitled to geneva convention protections. they are not in uniform and piracy-like spying-has traditionally merited summary execution. after the bandits are interrogated, they should be quickly shot

    3)since there is no viable government or organization behind this banditry diplomacy has no value. the only proper response is to kill those responsible as fast and efficiently as possible. this does not mean machine gunning or rocketing every vessel in the area but it does mean any active piracy should be met with utter and total ruthlessness.



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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    They deserve worse.
    That is a mentality I see a lot these days. Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples. Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down. We are somehow separate from these people? We are somehow better than these people? We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries (and when we're the ones who do it). But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up. Sometimes people just disgust me.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    That is a mentality I see a lot these days. Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples. Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down. We are somehow separate from these people? We are somehow better than these people? We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries (and when we're the ones who do it). But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up. Sometimes people just disgust me.

    It's not that. It doesn't matter to me the nationality of the victims. Thugs that murder people for no reason deserve the worst.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

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    QUOTE=Arcadius;1059302783]Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples.
    No.
    Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down.
    Yes, and other demcracies should develop the same attitude.
    We are somehow separate from these people?
    Clearly.

    We are somehow better than these people?
    Infinitely!

    We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries
    Certainly didn't in WWII but are you saying that the US is the 'policman of the world"?

    (and when we're the ones who do it).
    And when was that?

    But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up.
    So you're okay with that?

    Sometimes people just disgust me.
    Me too!

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by USA_1 View Post
    It's not that. It doesn't matter to me the nationality of the victims. Thugs that murder people for no reason deserve the worst.
    I was just using your comment as an example. It's kind of easy to misinterpret your meaning when one reads the previous post. There is just this strange separation of our country from the rest of the world.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    [No.
    Clearly you don't live in America, because I hear it every three seconds.


    Yes, and other demcracies should develop the same attitude.
    So, we shouldn't help innocent people in need? Maybe we could actually uphold our lofty moral ideals for once.


    Clearly.
    Last time I checked we were all human.



    Infinitely!
    Not even a little.



    Certainly didn't in WWII but are you saying that the US is the 'policman of the world"?
    Yeah, after we were attacked we started playing the good guy (while bombing civilian populations). What I'm saying is that these are things that everyone should care about and want to stop. THESE ARE HUMAN PROBLEMS!



    And when was that?
    Ever heard about those people who lived here before us?


    So you're okay with that?
    No, but there are far more deplorable acts that we almost completely ignore.



    Me too!
    Clearly not as intensely as me.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Arcadius View Post
    That is a mentality I see a lot these days. Like somehow Americans are above all other peoples. Like it's okay what foreigners do to each other, but when you f*ck with America you're going down. We are somehow separate from these people? We are somehow better than these people? We tend to ignore things like genocide when it happens in other countries (and when we're the ones who do it). But when 4 Americans are killed we get all worked up. Sometimes people just disgust me.

    It's that attitude that made America great.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    She's said it numerous times on this forum.
    Quote me where I have supported murder. Pfft.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I'm not going to condemn them. If that is what you are asking, if any ship enters Somali waters then yes. It deserves to be nicked. They are doing no different to what happened to them

    IW is a different issue
    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    LOL
    You mean evidence like United Nations Environment Programme and EU saying systematic illegal dumping and fishing has been occurring in Somalia?

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    How about some links about European and Asian companies illegally fishing?
    Do you know what is really funny ... Pirates have badly affected the fishing Industry. Now why would the fishing Industry, in particular tuna be so affected like that

    Take your ignorance elsewhere, why do you think so few African neighbours are fighting Somali Pirates. Because the voluntary coast guards are doing more good than bad.
    It is fine when rich countries break law but somehow it is the end of the world when a poor country does the same. Please, it doesn't work like that
    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You don't condemn those countries but expect me to start condemning people defending their country and people? No no.
    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Defending Somali waters from foreigners poisoning us, good. Now it's just plain greed. Stupidly holding a US hostage? I mean come on, were they high when they hatched that plan?
    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Edit: Note how many hijackings are happening close to Somalia. You deserve it
    But then again, I do not know why I am trying to explain the simple to you.
    Someone who actually believes the Pirates are somehow in league with Islamists


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