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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Are you essentially saying you have theives and then you have robin hood types? Ones who care about their own personal wealth, and others who feel they're protecting their waters and the people who have sunk into poverty due to their livelihood (fishing the waters) has been severely damaged?
    Essentially. But the Pirates have damaged the other's standing by merging them both together as 'Pirates'.
    Some of the Pirates I met are disgusting.
    I do not know how you can waste 10 million so quickly but they do it
    They also cleverly fund alot of the ransom money into Kenya and our neighboring countries. That explains why US is not finding co operation from the African countries into curbing Somali Piracy.

    Kenya in particular has it brilliantly:
    Pirates leave Kenyan vessels in the most part
    Pirates fund money back into Kenya's economy
    Kenya benefits
    (That is why the Pirates were released a while back when they were caught and imprisoned)

    Even the UN has said some of Somalia's waters have been damaged beyond repair. Do you know some of Somalia's waters has some of the most fish-rich waters in the world. The rest of the world have depleted their resources and have turned to Africa and other poor countries to fill in that gap


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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Yes I do.
    Unlike probably everyone in this thread, I have met and spoken to members of both of these groups in my trips to my country.

    The ones who do it for greed. The pirates are the ones who have their disgusting prostitutes, alcohol, who waste the ransom money on huge houses (You won't believe how OTT some of them are) but stash enough to bribe off the "Governments" and officials. And enough to quieten up the local population

    The coast guards are those who are more humble with their ransom money. They use it to compensate those fishermen who have lost out, they build the schools and hospitals and roads in North Somalia.

    Yes. I do recognize the difference and I do support one of them. One acted out of desperation and a last resort because it was the only way to protect themselves in the face of the rest of the world turning their back on it. The other started it because of the money involved and the rewards outweighed the risks



    If you support "one of them" you should show us this otherside and not seemingly excuse the mass of them.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    A Somalian supporting piracy. How unusual.

    The rest of the world turned its back on Somalia?

    Recall what happened when the Americans tried to bring aid to that sphincter??
    What is a Somalian?

    You mean when they overthrew a Government the population supported and who bought peace to the land because the Islamists did not match their ambitions in the region and funded warlords to stay in power?
    You mean the air strikes Bush supported in Somalia?
    You mean when US gave money and weapons to Ethiopia to kill Somalis with and sparked an insurgency and led to the rebirth of Al Shabab as Al Qaeda's ideological cousins?

    Which one?


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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Why was those Americans near Somali waters?

    Talk about crazy. Wow.
    It's like those Americans who back packed across Iran
    pleasure boats usually sail together in flotillas for safety. personally, i plan to stay away from those waters.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Rev, I think you're only reading what you want to read. She hasn't been "excusing" the mass of them.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    They should throw them in jail, however as I understand it there is no place where the Somali pirates can be trialed so they are usually released after a while.
    A UN report has suggested in the past to establish such place, but it doesn't seem like the report was taken into consideration.
    They can be tried and jailed here in the states, but I don't think that acts as any kind of deterrent.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Prepare to be disappointed

    Pirates and the Coast Guards are here to stay.
    Because our prez is a pussy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Yes I do.
    Unlike probably everyone in this thread, I have met and spoken to members of both of these groups in my trips to my country.

    The ones who do it for greed. The pirates are the ones who have their disgusting prostitutes, alcohol, who waste the ransom money on huge houses (You won't believe how OTT some of them are) but stash enough to bribe off the "Governments" and officials. And enough to quieten up the local population

    The coast guards are those who are more humble with their ransom money. They use it to compensate those fishermen who have lost out, they build the schools and hospitals and roads in North Somalia.

    Yes. I do recognize the difference and I do support one of them. One acted out of desperation and a last resort because it was the only way to protect themselves in the face of the rest of the world turning their back on it. The other started it because of the money involved and the rewards outweighed the risks
    Even if we are to take your claims here as nothing but the absolute truth and assume that Somali pirates can be divided into two groups, one that hijacks boats and takes hostages for greed and another that does the same for the people, I can't see how does that make the situation different for the pirates' victims or for the responsibility of their respective government to maintain their security.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Rev, I think you're only reading what you want to read. She hasn't been "excusing" the mass of them.
    Not all of them, no. Just some of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They can be tried and jailed here in the states, but I don't think that acts as any kind of deterrent.
    wouldn't it be easier to militarily escort commerical ships and ban pleasure craft.....take away their ready made supply of victims?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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