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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Isn't 12 miles the recognized limit?
    I previously showed a graph which showed a few years, a majority of the hijackings were occurring

    Edit: Found it.

    See how many hijackings are stupidly close to Somalia


    Some of them are practically next to the coast!
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Isn't 12 miles the recognized limit?
    /spilled coffee
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    It's hate speech, but it's against Christians so nothing will come of it. Disgusting.
    Oh pal ease!

    If you wanna go yachting off the ****ing coast of Somalia as 4 white American Christians and you didn't see this coming, I have no idea what planet they were on...

    Here's a good way not to die off the coast of Somalia that we all know has been dangerous for YEARS!

    DONT GO THERE!

    What was it you said when the christian missionaries died in afganistan Mr V?

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    FOXNews.com - Afghan mission ends in death for 6 US, 2 Europeans, 2 Afghans; Taliban claim responsibility

    Stupid arrogant fools. The Taliban doesn't care what "good" you are doing, you are cattle to be slaughtered. RIP, may God comfort your families.

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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Several quick thoughts:

    1) Somalia is a country without a functional government. That a chaotic environment in which piracy, among other issues, exist is consistent with situations where power vacuums amplified by various ethnic and/or tribal rivalries and major social challenges are present.

    2) Nations need to determine what interests are at stake and the costs/benefits of safeguarding those interests.

    3) Various options exist for dealing with the problem. Some options would include:

    - ships reroute their courses away from the area's waters (level of inconvenience/cost/time)
    - ships coordinate to pass when naval escorts are available (a much more limited period where shipping would occur); ships hiring security crews with sufficient firepower and authority (not unlimited authority, however) to defend against pirate attacks; captured pirates would be prosecuted.
    - If piracy has reached a point where it is imposing a significant burden, a limited military operation could be conducted against pirate enclaves and their supporting infrastructure.
    - If the national security interests are sufficiently compelling, the U.S. and/or other affected nations with exposed critical interests could take control of Somalia's coastline and begin "supervising" shipping activity in Somalia's waters.

    IMO, the national interests at stake are not sufficiently critical to justify that last policy response by the U.S./NATO states (and even as it might be unpopular, I don't believe the U.S. national interest was sufficiently strong to warrant U.S. military intervention during the early 1990s). The first option should be pursued by all pleasure/recreation craft. The first or second option should be pursued by large commercial craft.

    Finally, it should be noted that some of Somalia's neighbors may have sufficiently critical interests at stake to warrant either the third or fourth option. Hence, if they chose to pursue such a course, it would be justified based on their interests.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Just about yes and I previously showed a graph which showed a few years, a majority of the hijackings were occurring in what was deemed Somali waters.

    Edit: Found it.

    See how many hijackings are stupidly close to Somalia


    Some of them are practically next to the coast!
    Yet you were claiming for 100 miles of crime-approved waters.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    I don't see a scale, but it looks like more so have been outside of the 12 mile range.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    Yet you were claiming for 100 miles of crime-approved waters.
    When did I even suggest that those Americans ought to be killed. I said they weren't anywhere near Somali waters and I differentiate between those who operate in Somali waters (who are coast guard in my eyes) and those who are pushed by greed (if they die, their own fault) and expand outside of Somali waters and go up to a 100 miles out of it
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    When did I even suggest that those Americans ought to be killed. I said they weren't anywhere near Somali waters and I differentiate between those who operate in Somali waters (who are coast guard in my eyes) and those who are pushed by greed (if they die, their own fault) and expand outside of Somali waters and go up to a 100 miles out of it
    I didn't speak simply about those Americans, I speak about any citizen who would be within those 100 miles you've approved piracy in.
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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    I didn't speak simply about those Americans, I speak about any citizen who would be within those 100 miles you've approved piracy in.
    Ohhh.
    I have said it previously in one of the other threads something along the lines of:

    If they successfully hijack. Good for them.
    If they die, good for the Navy who killed them.
    The same way I sided with US who killed the Pirates who took the Americans hostage, they were dumb and cocky. They got killed. They asked for it


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    Re: BREAKING NEWS: 4 Americans Abducted by Somali Pirates Have Been Killed

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Oh pal ease!

    If you wanna go yachting off the ****ing coast of Somalia as 4 white American Christians and you didn't see this coming, I have no idea what planet they were on...

    Here's a good way not to die off the coast of Somalia that we all know has been dangerous for YEARS!

    DONT GO THERE!

    What was it you said when the christian missionaries died in afganistan Mr V?





    Seriously? You're equating those two comments? Man you're hurting here for ammo bub.

    First off, I held no hate for those folks doing their Christian Ministry work. Gray Fox WAS. BIG difference. I was not saying they deserved to die for what they were doing, only pissed off they went and DID IT in so dangerous a place.

    That you cannot see the difference in those views says a LOT about you as a person.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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