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iamitter said:
HECKLING.
"Libbos can say what they want about Conservatives, but you won't see Conservatives pulling this kind of crap."
I showed that conservatives do pull this crap.
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You showed what? Obama was lieing. It's only right that he got called on it. Isn't that the same state of the union address where he took a cheap shot at the SCOTUS? Speaking of heckling.

As for the republicans not heckling at columbia, you've clearly never been there.
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I don't need to go there, either, to know that most of the student body is made up of worthless mother****ers. If I had been there, someone would got his ass whipped for dissin' a vet like that.
 
apdst said:
Those little bastards wouldn't last 5 minutes in my platoon. I would see to it that they didn't.
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what would you to do them?
 
apdst said:
Riiiiiiiight, riiiiiiiight, and we're supposed to just take your word for it. Yes? Care to prove it? I got a better idea, how many Libbo speakers were actually assaulted by Conservatives, while speaking at Columbia? Can't wait for that.



Ohhhhhhhhh, really? Wanna make a list and compare? I'm game, but I promise you won't out-do me.
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Go look through the spectator archives, you'll find plenty.
I had nothing but distaste for clubs like the socialists who interrupted speakers who (though I often disagreed with) were interesting to listen to. The minutemen thing was organized by someone who wanted to provoke them as you would be well aware if you're knowledgeable of the event.

As for your challenge, fire away.
 
apdst said:
You showed what? Obama was lieing. It's only right that he got called on it. Isn't that the same state of the union address where he took a cheap shot at the SCOTUS? Speaking of heckling.



I don't need to go there, either, to know that most of the student body is made up of worthless mother****ers. If I had been there, someone would got his ass whipped for dissin' a vet like that.
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Every friend I made went on to be successful in whatever they wanted to do. Read the 'effin transcript no one was dissing him and those who hissed got chided by others.
Calling them worthless mother****ers just shows your ignorance. Your post makes me so ****ing angry, I can't even begin to express it.
 
A few issues need to be adressed:

So you deny that are people in the world that hate what the USA stands for and would love to see us fall?
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A) The concept that we are fighting a war on terror against men who plot to kill us out of sheer evil is a falsehood. Terror is an asymmetric strategy used to demand concessions from the nation in power. Specifically it has to do with American support for Israel and it's incursions into the middle east. Yes, many people want America dead and gone. It's not because America is too sparkly and beautiful for them to bear. The above statement is value laden to such an extent it can't maintain buoyancy, its essentially "Dey hatez us cuz we are good and they are bad."

Sorry your naivety is the only thing absurd and lacking anything "intellectual"?
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Sorry, the good absolute good guy vs bad guy mentality takes the cake.

B) Most 'enlightened' dialogue that occurs on campus is free from the conservative liberal paradigm and addresses the philosophical stances at their heart and laid bare. 'Conservative' ideas don't survive because they don't tend to hold intellectual water. See: 'Islamofascism'. If people came to campuses trying to pull fast ones like Islamofascism awareness they're going to get heckled and sent home fast. "Sorry, bro, been to college! LoL!" In a darwinistic sense conservative 'beliefs' are the dodo in the intellectual environment. They've been ravaged by leaner, meaner, beasts. Why coddle them?

Part of any intellectual discourse is the ability to express and, yes "painful" as it might seem to some who are overconfident in the "correctness" of their views, listen to differing perspectives. Rather than heckling, the students had ample opportunity to step to the microphone afterward to counter the viewpoint. That would have been the proper and respectful approach. Unfortunately, that's not what happened.
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The student's were exercising their free speech. The man issued a complete absurdity on a dozen levels, are you going to police their visceral reaction.

So, I don't care whether you go to what you consider a conservative college, or a liberal one, the reality is that your faculty is mostly likely made up of liberal prof's that unless they can teach on a college campus, they be unemployable in the real world due to their inability to fit into society as a whole.
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U made a funny.

Because they're Liberal pieces of ****.
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I don't need to go there, either, to know that most of the student body is made up of worthless mother****ers. If I had been there, someone would got his ass whipped for dissin' a vet like that.
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Those little bastards wouldn't last 5 minutes in my platoon. I would see to it that they didn't.
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They would be chaptered out in a heart beat. "Inability to adapt to military life".
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And you get classier everyday. I'm sure liberals can't handle getting up in the morning, eating crap food, shooting a rifle, getting yelled at. Frankly the military wishes it had those kids, hence the desire for ROTC. Inability to adapt to a military life surrounded by the marginally illiterate may be an issue though.
 
hazlnut said:
I agree, they came off like a bunch or Teabaggers trying to disrupt a town hall meeting. Just like the TBs, they don't really know what they're talking about.
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Nah, they sounded more like snotty little trustafarians from mission hill or a socal beach who have no concept of sacrifice or honor, but instead run thier disrespectful little mouths at a war hero.
 
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SE102 said:
You say
A) The concept that we are fighting a war on terror against men who plot to kill us out of sheer evil is a falsehood.
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then go on to say
Terror is an asymmetric strategy used to demand concessions from the nation in power. Specifically it has to do with American support for Israel and it's incursions into the middle east. Yes, many people want America dead and gone. It's not because America is too sparkly and beautiful for them to bear.
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So you concede then that there are men who are plotting to kill you. This is what the wounded soldier was saying.

The above statement is value laden to such an extent it can't maintain buoyancy, its essentially "Dey hatez us cuz we are good and they are bad."
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This is a statement only a Leftinger could make. I suppose you feel you're being satirical here, perhaps even comical, but in fact there are some bad guys out there and they are killing innocent people. And no matter how isolated from reality the Leftists might be, the majority of them should understand that.
Sorry, the good absolute good guy vs bad guy mentality takes the cake.
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I understand that in the Leftist world there is no evil, only the misunderstood, but of course that flies in the face of all empirical evidence and recorded human history. Evil does exist.
B) Most 'enlightened' dialogue that occurs on campus is free from the conservative liberal paradigm and addresses the philosophical stances at their heart and laid bare. 'Conservative' ideas don't survive because they don't tend to hold intellectual water.
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Yes, and these "philosophical stances" take the form of shouting down those who might offer alternative points of view, violent confrontation or pies in the face. We know.
See: 'Islamofascism'. If people came to campuses trying to pull fast ones like Islamofascism awareness they're going to get heckled and sent home fast.
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Exactly. Stupid and proud of it.
"Sorry, bro, been to college! LoL!" In a darwinistic sense conservative 'beliefs' are the dodo in the intellectual environment. They've been ravaged by leaner, meaner, beasts. Why coddle them?
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Leaner, meaner beasts? There is no philosophy more murky, and which depends almost entirely on lies and shoutdowns than the Leftist agenda. It often takes years to shake the crap too many kids learn in the educations system today and those who remain in academia are unlikely to ever recover, They will die ignorant.
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iamitter said:
Go look through the spectator archives, you'll find plenty.
I had nothing but distaste for clubs like the socialists who interrupted speakers who (though I often disagreed with) were interesting to listen to. The minutemen thing was organized by someone who wanted to provoke them as you would be well aware if you're knowledgeable of the event.

As for your challenge, fire away.
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LOL!!

The Minutemen were there to "provoke them"?

How so? By offering facts? Alternative points of view?

Let's try to keep in mind that these are "students" and are supposed to be learning. In order to have a well rounded education they should be "provoked" into thinking through the issues, or is their education thought to be complete when they finish high school?
 
Grant said:
I understand that in the Leftist world there is no evil, only the misunderstood, but of course that flies in the face of all empirical evidence and recorded human history. Evil does exist.
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I have to take issue with this statement, and while I understand your point (from a Leftists point of view, another Leftist is not evil.. or a left wing policy, ideology or project may not be evil) Leftists do believe in evil.

Examples:

Republicans are evil. Conservatives are evil. Capitalism is evil. Corporations are evil. The military (sometimes) is evil. G.W. Bush and NeoCons are evil.
 
Ockham said:
I have to take issue with this statement, and while I understand your point (from a Leftists point of view, another Leftist is not evil.. or a left wing policy, ideology or project may not be evil) Leftists do believe in evil.

Examples:

Republicans are evil. Conservatives are evil. Capitalism is evil. Corporations are evil. The military (sometimes) is evil. G.W. Bush and NeoCons are evil.
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Good points. And those wounded in the service of their country are evil as well.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
I loath murder, pointless death and theft so what do you think.
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I understand that, but that doesn't address the question. Are the individual neocons and liberals who spent us (we the people) into this mess, "evil"? It's a yes or no here, don't go all gray on me.
 
Ockham said:
I understand that, but that doesn't address the question. Are the individual neocons and liberals who spent us (we the people) into this mess, "evil"? It's a yes or no here, don't go all gray on me.
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No because they think in their diluted minds they think they are actually doing something good. Being misguided isnt evil, it's being retarded.
 
chevydriver1123 said:
No because they think in their diluted minds they think they are actually doing something good. Being misguided isnt evil, it's being retarded.
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A very reasonable answer. :thumbs:
 
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