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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Why are they angry?
    because their retarded arsed, limp wristed, pacifistic professors told them they should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Why are they angry?


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    You don't have to support the mission or the politics behind it, but this kind of disgusting behaviour towards men and woman who serve their country is not kosher to me.

    Jerkoffs.

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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    ungrateful little snots.
    So, are the other students meant to agree with him and his political statements in deference to his, albeit distinguished, military service? His statement,
    It doesn't matter how you feel about the war. It doesn't matter how you feel about fighting, there are bad men out there plotting to kill you.
    ...is not uncontroversial. He was hissed and jeered for expressing a particular position. This is hardly news-worthy. I'm guessing that there isn't a single controversial debate that doesn't provoke jeering and hissing. Are you guys arguing that his position should have been approved because of his record? I thought that freedom of expression was one of the things he had made those sacrifices to defend. You can't defend freedom of expression and then expect others not to exercise their freedom.
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    So, are the other students meant to agree with him and his political statements in deference to his, albeit distinguished, military service? His statement,
    ...is not uncontroversial. He was hissed and jeered for expressing a particular position. This is hardly news-worthy. I'm guessing that there isn't a single controversial debate that doesn't provoke jeering and hissing. Are you guys arguing that his position should have been approved because of his record? I thought that freedom of expression was one of the things he had made those sacrifices to defend. You can't defend freedom of expression and then expect others not to exercise their freedom.


    I think he should be afforded the courtesy of not being called a racist. Dude took 11 bullets for his country, these little snots should show some respect. If you disagree with him fine, be an adult about it, not a silver spoon fed jackass with an axe to grind.


    If I was there, you bet the hecklers would be "heckled back"....
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I think he should be afforded the courtesy of not being called a racist. Dude took 11 bullets for his country, these little snots should show some respect. If you disagree with him fine, be an adult about it, not a silver spoon fed jackass with an axe to grind.


    If I was there, you bet the hecklers would be "heckled back"....
    Yes, I agree to an extent except... I just searched and searched and could find just 1 reference to this story. The whole thing is based on the one report from the NY Post. The story wasn't reported in any other media, not even Columbia's own media. The Huff, a whole host of bloggers and the UK's Daily Mail all reported the NYP's story but there isn't a single corroborating report from any other independent source. So, can I believe that the guy was jeered? Yes. Of course. It was a political meeting, of course there would be heckling. Did he get called a racist? Well, there was no context in which the comment was reported. What did he say that the NYP is reporting he was called a racist for? They don't tell us. So, was he called a racist? No idea. It could have happened. But did he say something racist to provoke the comment? Maybe, maybe not, the NYP doesn't tell us.

    You say you would have heckled back in his defence, but you don't have the first clue what he said other than the 27 words the NYP quoted him as saying. What if he had spewed a tirade of racist abuse? I'm not saying he did, but we don't know. I'd be interested to read the transcript of the meeting. Without that I'm suspicious of populist, liberal-bashing Murdoch media outlets. That's just how I am.
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Yes, I agree to an extent except... I just searched and searched and could find just 1 reference to this story. The whole thing is based on the one report from the NY Post. The story wasn't reported in any other media, not even Columbia's own media. The Huff, a whole host of bloggers and the UK's Daily Mail all reported the NYP's story but there isn't a single corroborating report from any other independent source. So, can I believe that the guy was jeered? Yes. Of course. It was a political meeting, of course there would be heckling. Did he get called a racist? Well, there was no context in which the comment was reported. What did he say that the NYP is reporting he was called a racist for? They don't tell us. So, was he called a racist? No idea. It could have happened. But did he say something racist to provoke the comment? Maybe, maybe not, the NYP doesn't tell us.

    You say you would have heckled back in his defence, but you don't have the first clue what he said other than the 27 words the NYP quoted him as saying. What if he had spewed a tirade of racist abuse? I'm not saying he did, but we don't know. I'd be interested to read the transcript of the meeting. Without that I'm suspicious of populist, liberal-bashing Murdoch media outlets. That's just how I am.

    I have a relative on staff there, I'll ask tonight.


    Better yet.

    http://realclearpolitics.com/video/2...ng_debate.html

    here is the audio. Completely disrespectful and ignorant. He brought up some very good points. One of the signs he was responding to, was that the poor are the ones who serve (btw, not true, they are underrepresented), which he pointed out for expensive columbia, they are discriminating against the poor.


    The dood out classed these jokers, and they knew it.
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    someone's gone and spit on the golden calf!

    can't have that!!!

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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I have a relative on staff there, I'll ask tonight.


    Better yet.

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Purple Heart Recipient Heckled At Columbia University During Debate

    here is the audio. Completely disrespectful and ignorant. He brought up some very good points. One of the signs he was responding to, was that the poor are the ones who serve (btw, not true, they are underrepresented), which he pointed out for expensive columbia, they are discriminating against the poor.


    The dood out classed these jokers, and they knew it.
    The guy did fine, but that audio, if that was the extent of the heckling, man that was so mild! I heard no shouts of 'racist', I heard one "woo-hoo" and two outbursts of cackling laughter. You expect that he would have been listened to in silence?

    Having listened to the whole thing, my reaction is that the guy got to make his point, that a couple of people disagreed vocally and... er, that's it. How, in God's name, did that merit an NY Post article? We had a village council meeting here last week about this year's fiesta and whether we could afford one or two live music bands to play. Someone insulted one of last year's bands and another person laid him out for it. Literally. Uppercut, broke three teeth, laid him out. That didn't make the local weekly, never mind a major national daily.
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Ivy League education going to waste. At first it was about DADT, now they're just showing they dislike the military. Either reinstate ROTC or stop taking federal funds.

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