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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Would you include topics like creationism in "academic freedom"?
    IMO, "creationism" would be a fair topic for perhaps a discussion dealing with the role some interepretations of religion have with respect to contemporary issues. It should not be part of a science course/curricula, especially a higher education curricula, on account of its non-empirical nature, religious/philosophical underpinnings, etc. Academic freedom is not synonymous with granting license for an "anything goes" approach to courses and curricula.

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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why would you be so scared of the openness? Is it only the liberal ideas that deserve debate? How very "Moderate" of you.


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    Keeping creationism out of a science course is not a "liberal idea."

    Liberals don't have a problem with creationism in a religion or philosophy course.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    I'm not proud of my alma mater in times like these, but I can't say I'm really surprised.
    Rarely a week went by when I could get to class without me seeing some anti-war protesters.
    Bollinger is a fierce defender of first amendment rights and always has controversial speakers come, but any even relatively pro-military speaker is going to get heckled and protested at Columbia.

    Having said that, I don't even know why they would want ROTC back on campus. ROTC has never been "banned" btw http://www.nytimes.com/2010/10/25/opinion/25Mazur.html

    It isn't cost-efficient to hold ROTC centers for the handful of students that would participate. It's possible to attend it through another university and ivy league colleges have historically had 2-3 people actually do so.
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    I have a relative on staff there, I'll ask tonight.


    Better yet.

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Purple Heart Recipient Heckled At Columbia University During Debate

    here is the audio. Completely disrespectful and ignorant. He brought up some very good points. One of the signs he was responding to, was that the poor are the ones who serve (btw, not true, they are underrepresented), which he pointed out for expensive columbia, they are discriminating against the poor.


    The dood out classed these jokers, and they knew it.
    That is completely false information.
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by LookingGlass View Post
    This is a fabulous argument to reinstate the draft.
    Those little bastards wouldn't last 5 minutes in my platoon. I would see to it that they didn't.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Why are they angry?
    Because they're Liberal pieces of ****. This is why I don't like Liberals, in general. Libbos can say what they want about Conservatives, but you won't see Conservatives pulling this kind of crap.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Maschek yesterday offered the following comment in the Columbia newspaper:


    " To all who have expressed concern or outrage over the reported events at the Columbia University ROTC Town Hall meeting:

    Comments by a small number of individuals at the town hall meeting have not changed my positive experiences at Columbia. Thus far, my fellow students have been very interested in hearing about my past life and military experiences. Columbia has been attempting to get more veterans to share their experiences here, and the atmosphere here has been supportive despite the actions of a very small minority of the town hall participants."
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Why would you be so scared of the openness? Is it only the liberal ideas that deserve debate? How very "Moderate" of you.


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    We are all free to "learn" any subject we want but that doesn't mean it has to be part of a publicly funded schools curriculum....whether far right conservatism or far left liberalism, I don't see any of it being taught in high schools or college. Certainly there are some liberals in the profession, but that doesn't mean that they are trying to brainwash the masses.
    If you are insisting that your particular brand of "knowledge" be taught in public, be aware that once that door is open, the freaks will take over academics and we will fall further behind other nations.
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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Keeping creationism out of a science course is not a "liberal idea."

    Liberals don't have a problem with creationism in a religion or philosophy course.
    They shouldn't have a problem with evolution in another course vice a science class, because it's a belief just like creationism is. It's the anti-religion, which is the same thing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hero's unwelcome

    Also guys, read the transcript and listen to what he says and the reactions, also realizing that there were a lot of people condemning the jeerers.
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