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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    It doesn't really matter who the problem is, the point is that a campus full of alcohol and guns is a tragedy waiting to happen.
    When you're banning the wrong behavior, of course it matters who's the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    If you view the alcohol (rather than the guns) as being the primary problem and know of a way to prevent college students who want to drink from drinking, let's deal with that first. THEN maybe we can talk about having guns on campus.
    If only I had the ability.

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    The reason I'm opposed to guns on most residential campuses is the same reason that I don't think people should be allowed to bring a gun into a bar or club: the alcohol.
    In my state it doesn't matter where you are, you simply are not allowed to be legally intoxicated while in possession of a firearm.

    Additionally, we aren't allowed to carry inside a business "who derive at least half their income from the sale of alcohol". This includes bars and liquor stores.

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    New years eve I was out with my brother and his now X looking for some adult refreshments. Now, my brother's X didn't know I ever touched a firearm outside of military. I knew that if she did, she would want to see it and play with it and basically get in all kinds of trouble. Anyway, we came to a liquor store and knowing the law preventing me from entering (I always carry) but also wanting to be discreet about it (because of his X) I told him I would wait in the car. He knew why and went and bought what he wanted.

    His X is always looking for a way to pick on someone...probably why she's his X now...and tried to make an issue teasing me about staying in the car for that one store. I shrugged it off, not wanting to make an issue out of it, but refused to offer an explanation to her as, again, I wanted to be discrete about carrying.

    No sooner did I ask her to drop it when, silly me, having gotten comfortable at my brother's house, took off my sweater, and there was my pistol for all to see; and her silly games began again.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    What would you propose as more constitutional limitations? Or should we be allowed to open-carry anywhere?
    Seeing a pistol on someone's belt shouldn't catch your eye any more than a cellphone or molti-tool.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    I say if 18yo kids aren't old enough to be trusted as adults with a pistol, then they can't tried as adults in a court of law. They are either 100% adults and are treated and trusted as such, or they are 0% adults and can not be treated or tried as such.

    Gotta pick one, can't have both.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    I'm of the opinion that everyone should be trained in the safe handling and use of weapons. As a mandatory class in high school.
    Sex Ed, Drivers Ed, Firearms Ed, Home Ec./Budgeting should all be mandatory.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Have you guys been on a college campus recently? Specifically a non-commuter school with a large student population living on campus? Maybe this comes as a shock to some people, but college students like to drink alcohol...a lot. And at that age, they're often relatively new to alcohol and don't know their limits. Do you really want people to have guns in close proximity after they've just consumed 8 beers and are acting belligerent?
    Have you been on a college campus? Drinking isn't allowed, or didn't you know?
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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I say if 18yo kids aren't old enough to be trusted as adults with a pistol, then they can't tried as adults in a court of law. They are either 100% adults and are treated and trusted as such, or they are 0% adults and can not be treated or tried as such.

    Gotta pick one, can't have both.
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    If a 18 years old can be trusted to go kill and die in war.
    Then they should be treated as an adult.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    I don't know about people drinking while having a CCW, but one things for sure, if I am able to get a CCW, why would I bring my weapon to a party where I know i'm going to consume alcohol? And general practice is, when the gun is not in use, unload and lock both weapon and ammunition separately. If they don't follow such rules, then they are breaking the laws to begin with, at least in California.
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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    What are the rules of engagement? If someone else flashes theirs first does that make them the starter of the firefight? Is it illegal to duel? What can't I do with my gun?
    Give youself intelligence.

    It's stupid to say "is it illegal to duel" and dumb ass **** like that. Of course it's illegal to duel, don't be an idiot. There can be reasonable and intelligent concerns about allowing students the ability to to carry firearms, start there. Don't start into "Oh what are rules of engagement...are duels illegal" blah blah blah. Try to be intelligent.
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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If liquor is not allowed on campus and they choose to drink, **** them, expel them. I have no sympathy.
    My University allows liquor and guns on campus. We haven't really had a problem. Fact is, lots of students will not choose to carry a weapon. The most retarded of the bunch (business and communications majors) are too busy driking themselves retarded to carry a gun. It's really not going to make a huge difference on the whole. If you have a CCW, you should be allowed to carry on campus.
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