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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Relatively new? Yeah...I guess vs a 51 year old they would be "relatively new". I personally don't know of a single kid that hasn't drank alcohol by the time they are 16-17 years old.
    I never drank until college. Neither did most of my friends...

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    Now be that as it may, yes college's are notorious for partying and drinking. But irregardless of that they are still adults. With all the rights there of.
    I'm not suggesting they shouldn't be allowed to own a gun. Just don't bring it on campus.

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    What is actually idiotic about this is that at one point in time high schoolers use to bring guns to school every single day. No one even looked twice or cared.
    Nor would I (at least for rural high schools). That's a completely different situation than a campus atmosphere where students regularly party and get drunk.
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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    The 18 year old with a missile in a combat zone can be trusted because he's had training.
    Yet you would trust that same person with liquor. That doesn't follow since liquor kills more people then firearms.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    If they have the same training as professional soldiers, I'm cool with it. But having every 18-19 yr old on campus carry a piece in his/her backpack is enough to make me wary. The professors and administrators, sure... but again, there should be a licensing process for concealed weapons that assures everyone who carries one knows how to use it.
    DiAnna.....you have to be 21 to perches a pistol. That's federal law.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Black Hills State has already banned liquor from it's property. There are no drunken parties here. So, why not allow firearms? Same with our tech schools who don't even have dorms, there's no reason to ban firearms.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    DiAnna.....you have to be 21 to perches a pistol. That's federal law.
    It is, but state police are not required to enforce it. For example: in my state it is legal to purchase a pistol if you are 18 or older, but you can only posses it in your home or place of business or on property owned by you until age 21.

    Although, there is a loophole where you can keep a handgun in your car without a concealed weapons permit as long as you can claim you were taking it with you for the sake of an outdoor activity (such as hiking, camping, etc.) where you might need personal protection.
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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Yet you would trust that same person with liquor. That doesn't follow since liquor kills more people then firearms.
    Typically it takes longer to do so than a gun.

    Plus, it's very hard to kill someone else with liquor without their consent.
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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Black Hills State has already banned liquor from it's property. There are no drunken parties here. So, why not allow firearms? Same with our tech schools who don't even have dorms, there's no reason to ban firearms.
    Well, on a college like that maybe it wouldn't be a problem. I'm not saying there needs to be a blanket ban on guns on all college campuses. It makes more sense to let the colleges each set their own rules about guns, because they have different campus lifestyles. On the campuses of large universities where a lot of students reside, there's almost invariably going to be alcohol (unless it's a very conservative/religious school). On those campuses, it would be safer if belligerent drunks didn't have guns in their pockets.
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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    It is, but state police are not required to enforce it. For example: in my state it is legal to purchase a pistol if you are 18 or older, but you can only posses it in your home or place of business or on property owned by you until age 21.

    Although, there is a loophole where you can keep a handgun in your car without a concealed weapons permit as long as you can claim you were taking it with you for the sake of an outdoor activity (such as hiking, camping, etc.) where you might need personal protection.
    Wow, that's news to me.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBook View Post
    Typically it takes longer to do so than a gun.
    It take less time to buy liquor then to buy a pistol. I know because I've don both. In fact in the time it takes to buy a pistol one can drink their 5th and get in the car.

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    Plus, it's very hard to kill someone else with liquor without their consent.
    Ask the victim of a drunk driver that and let's see their response.

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    Re: Texas poised to pass bill allowing guns on campus

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Well, on a college like that maybe it wouldn't be a problem. I'm not saying there needs to be a blanket ban on guns on all college campuses. It makes more sense to let the colleges each set their own rules about guns, because they have different campus lifestyles. On the campuses of large universities where a lot of students reside, there's almost invariably going to be alcohol (unless it's a very conservative/religious school). On those campuses, it would be safer if belligerent drunks didn't have guns in their pockets.
    The belligerent drunks are the problem, not the CCW holders.

    Also, regarding proper training, keep in mind that a number of those students have the Military Science minor (an optional path to become an officer), and believe me that counts.

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