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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by theunbubba View Post
    Wrong. The central committee is a specific target and Hu is it's head. There will be real revolution in China soon. This is merely the beginning. They are testing the will of the Party right now. Between 2012 and 2017 there will be a sweeping revolution there. It is inevitable. With economic gains there comes a need for personal freedom. Lesiure time breeds dissatisfaction with being penned in like a slave. If they try to take away the economic gains it will only hasten the revolution. They need to hold free and fair multiparty elections and have a smooth transition to an open society or they will descend into anarchy.
    Historically, one of the best ways to quell a revolution is to take that anger and point it at a neighboring country.... in this case, I hate to say it, but... well, if Hu comes out and says 'china's problems are the US's fault because of all their bad debts with us' (or something more eloquent to that effect)... Not saying this WILL happen, just that people don't seem to mind brutal dictators if the country is at war.

    Though, if China DID go the war route then, it wouldn't necessarily be aimed at the US either.

    (for the chinese censors block this out)
    The other option would be that the Chinese might just make another example of those that would oppose them.. like they did at Tiananmen square.

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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    Historically, one of the best ways to quell a revolution is to take that anger and point it at a neighboring country.... in this case, I hate to say it, but... well, if Hu comes out and says 'china's problems are the US's fault because of all their bad debts with us' (or something more eloquent to that effect)... Not saying this WILL happen, just that people don't seem to mind brutal dictators if the country is at war.

    Though, if China DID go the war route then, it wouldn't necessarily be aimed at the US either.

    (for the chinese censors block this out)
    The other option would be that the Chinese might just make another example of those that would oppose them.. like they did at Tiananmen square.
    It's been 22 years since Tiananmen square. There has been plenty of time to infiltrate the hierarchy of the Communist party. The old guard is dying off and the new people don't see the need. It's like the Soviet Union. as soon as the old guard has lost enough people through attrition the next will be willing to change and weak enough to allow it. They will have no stomach for war. All it takes is another Yeltsin.

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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Right or wrong I'm inclined to agree... One should admire such efficiency.

    But no, saying such a blanket statement has no purpose except to spark animosity.
    lol wut, I'm a liberal and I have absolutely no respect for the Communist Party in China. IMO Obama's admiration only extends insofar as China's economic machine is working miracles, which is pretty impressive no matter how you cut it.

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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by theunbubba View Post
    Are you referring to oppression IN east tennessee? Or are you trying to intimidate me by being slick with the knowledge of my general location? I have a public blog with my photo. You don't scare me at all.

    Speaktruthtoliberals.

    Don't try that crap with me or you'll end up with a fist in your mouth.
    What the **** is wrong with you? its says your location under your avatar...

    I was simply calling you a sort of nickname by it, no offense meant, American was reffering to me, you appeared to be backing him up, so I wanted you to explain in what way I was defending Chinese oppression...

    You sure you're ok in the head there buddy?
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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    lol wut, I'm a liberal and I have absolutely no respect for the Communist Party in China. IMO Obama's admiration only extends insofar as China's economic machine is working miracles, which is pretty impressive no matter how you cut it.
    That's all I was reffering to, were it up to me, the entire leadership of China would be sent to prison. That is all.

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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    What the **** is wrong with you? its says your location under your avatar...

    I was simply calling you a sort of nickname by it, no offense meant, American was reffering to me, you appeared to be backing him up, so I wanted you to explain in what way I was defending Chinese oppression...

    You sure you're ok in the head there buddy?
    The wording of your post made it very ambiguous as to your meaning. You need to do something about the syntax of your sentences. My nickname is what is called a user name. It's shorter than East Tennessee too. So I'm not buying your explanation.

    I already explained how you are defending China's government oppression. You can stop being obtuse any time now.

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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by theunbubba View Post
    The wording of your post made it very ambiguous as to your meaning. You need to do something about the syntax of your sentences. My nickname is what is called a user name. It's shorter than East Tennessee too. So I'm not buying your explanation.
    Okay Now I'm really confused, what did you think occured here? And why was the threat of Physical violence nessecary?

    I already explained how you are defending China's government oppression. You can stop being obtuse any time now.
    Really where?

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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Okay Now I'm really confused, what did you think occured here? And why was the threat of Physical violence nessecary?
    I'm not that stupid. You attempted to intimidate me by pointing out my location to me. That much is plain by the fact that my nickname is my username and it's shorter than what you claimed to be using. Nicknames are shorter and easier to use than the original. Like duh.



    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Really where?
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    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1059297364

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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    Quote Originally Posted by theunbubba View Post
    I'm not that stupid. You attempted to intimidate me by pointing out my location to me. That much is plain by the fact that my nickname is my username and it's shorter than what you claimed to be using. Nicknames are shorter and easier to use than the original. Like duh.
    You're not being clear, do you think I traced you or something. That's a pretty serious Accusation. I don't know why I said it, I just did, I'm random.



    What is that suppose to prove?

    I meant everything that I said as more of a dark joke, I think the chinese leadership should be in prison for their human rights abuses, but right or wrong, what they're doing economically seems to be working, and their precautionary measures taken are most impressive, from a purely morbid security official standpoint.

    Right or wrong I will give my enemies credit when they do something rather effective. Which they have.

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    Re: China tries to stamp out 'Jasmine Revolution'

    China's autocrats should be worried about what's happening in the Arab world. Not because they're in any immediate danger of being toppled, but because it plants the seeds for democracy down the road.

    Unlike many Arab regimes which are almost universally despised by their people, I don't really see much evidence that most Chinese are unhappy with their government at the present time. However, that could very easily change if/when the economy slows down and the country stops growing at 8-10% per year. As long as that continues, I think the Chinese will be willing to endure the human rights abuses in exchange for being lifted out of poverty. But China can't continue growing that quickly forever. Maybe they have another decade of rapid growth in them...maybe less. But when the economy slows down, I think China will democratize. And this time, I think it's more likely to be relatively peaceful than it was in 1989.
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