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Hundreds of Libyans shot down

Just out of interest, where are these Merceneries from?

Mostly other African countries. I have not seen a breakdown by country, only a reference to mercenaries from other African countries (possibly neighboring states?).
 
Mostly other African countries. I have not seen a breakdown by country, only a reference to mercenaries from other African countries (possibly neighboring states?).

I'd bet my left testicle there's a few former SANDF guys in there.
 
Mostly other African countries. I have not seen a breakdown by country, only a reference to mercenaries from other African countries (possibly neighboring states?).

If the government does fall those guys better get out of Dodge real quick. There will be no mercy on mercs.
 
I'd bet my left testicle there's a few former SANDF guys in there.

Just be careful if anybody tries to get you to agree that all bets are on the table.
 
AJE mentioning Machine Guns, Snipers, and mercenaries, being used on protestors.
Protests are apparently very widespread despite lack of much getting out.




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[Daniel Patrick] Moynihan's Law:
"The amount of violations of human rights in a country is always an inverse function of the amount of complaints about human rights violations heard from there. The greater the number of complaints being aired, the better protected are human rights in that country."
 
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If thousands of people massed together and demanded the overthrow of the American government, our government would turn machine guns on them, too. And unless I was among the protesters, I'd support them in doing so.
 
If thousands of people massed together and demanded the overthrow of the American government, our government would turn machine guns on them, too. And unless I was among the protesters, I'd support them in doing so.

Depends in what they're protesting over really, and the validity of the government.
 
If thousands of people massed together and demanded the overthrow of the American government, our government would turn machine guns on them, too. And unless I was among the protesters, I'd support them in doing so.

In a democracy the government would be justified to defend itself. In a dictatorship, not so much.
 
It is going to actually be a net gain...fewer Libyans.
 
In a democracy the government would be justified to defend itself. In a dictatorship, not so much.

The best dictatorships are where the people believe they are free........
 
The best dictatorships are where the people believe they are free........

A dictatorship could be a good thing if the dictator puts the people before himself. It is very rare.
 
A dictatorship could be a good thing if the dictator puts the people before himself. It is very rare.
True.

If thousands of people massed together and demanded the overthrow of the American government, our government would turn machine guns on them, too. And unless I was among the protesters, I'd support them in doing so.
Why would you admit to that? You know just because the "leaders" change does not mean the system does. And if the system is corrupt it then needs to go.
 
What do you have against the Libyan people? Do you know any? Or are you just a racist?

How pedestrian...last time I looked Libyans weren't our BFFs. So if there are fewer of them it is of no concern to me.
 
From Reuters:

Members of a Libyan army unit said they had defected and "liberated" the country's second city from forces loyal to veteran leader Muammar Gaddafi after scores of protesters were killed in the bloodiest revolt now shaking the Arab world.

Two residents of Benghazi told Reuters on Sunday that members of the army's "Thunderbolt" squad had switched sides after days of violence that mark the most serious challenge to Gaddafi's 42-year rule. Al Jazeera reported clashes in the capital between thousands of protesters and Gaddafi supporters.

Libyan unit defects as more Arab protests simmer | Reuters
 
In a democracy the government would be justified to defend itself. In a dictatorship, not so much.

Who gets to decide which government is a dictatorship or not???
 
True.

Why would you admit to that? You know just because the "leaders" change does not mean the system does. And if the system is corrupt it then needs to go.

The government doesn't neccesarily have to be corrupt for people to rise up against it. Some people might just disagree with it's direction or policies. That's why we have elections. To change the government. The only reason US citizens could justify a revolt is if the president disbanded the government, repealed the constitution and declared marshal law.
 
And you know this how?

Seriously? I know this from READING them...from going to non traditional, non-mainstream news sources and reading them. Kind of the point. Hell...try Google. The stories are out there...they are not being pumped like the Egyptian uprising was. And you dont find that at all curious?
 
Libyan unit "defects" as more Arab protests simmer

Members of a Libyan army unit said they had defected and "liberated" the country's second city from forces loyal to veteran leader Muammar Gaddafi after scores of protesters were killed in the bloodiest revolt now shaking the Arab world.

Two residents of Benghazi told Reuters on Sunday that members of the army's "Thunderbolt" squad had switched sides after days of violence that mark the most serious challenge to Gaddafi's 42-year rule. Al Jazeera reported clashes in the capital between thousands of protesters and Gaddafi supporters.

Source: Reuters

Looks like this is progressing the most meaning we may see an ousting here as well. So far that particular aspect has been a North African phenomena.
 
Re: Libyan unit "defects" as more Arab protests simmer

This is great news and hope it's a trend that leads eventually to Gaddafi getting the same treatment afforded to Mussolini and he is removed from power and summarily executed.
 
Re: Libyan unit "defects" as more Arab protests simmer

Well there goes the price of gas! Damnit!
 
Re: Libyan unit "defects" as more Arab protests simmer

To be honest, I'm quite surprised. A massive display of violence is usually a very effective way for a horrible government like Qadaffi's to silence protesters. But maybe it was just too little, too late. The BBC is reporting that Qadaffi's son appeared on state television and admitted that the military overreacted. He also seemed to be suggesting that Libya was at risk of fragmenting into two countries, since the Qadaffis have essentially lost control of the entire eastern half of the country but maintain power in Tripoli.
 
Depends in what they're protesting over really, and the validity of the government.

In a democracy the government would be justified to defend itself. In a dictatorship, not so much.

The legitimacy of government is subjective; every government believes itself to be legitimate.
 
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