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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    lethal force against unarmed protestors is disgusting, no matter where it is.

    somebodys brothers, uncles, cousins, boyfriends, sons, fathers.

    just horrible.




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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    This is an awful situation and it will only get wose before it gets better.

    If the people had the right to "KEEP AND BARE ARMS" the outcome would be much different.

    At least they could fight back.
    If those people had that right, they'd all be dead. As soon as people start firing back at soldiers, it stops being uneasy soldiers firing at crowds unahppily because they feel threatened, and it starts being professional soldiers shooting down insurgents left and right.

    It is incredibly foolish to think that having a gun would have helped anyone here.

    As a former military man, I can tell you with absolute surety that soldiers will always win against civilians. Soldiers have the equipment, the training, the back-up, the comms. Civilians have an old gun that might scare a blagger but looks like a joke compared to a well-kept assault rifle, let alone a tank.

    If a foreign power were to occupy the United States, the only thing that would come of all the guns lying around your nation is a grossly inflated civilian death toll. Sorry, but it's true -- ask anyone with military experience.

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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    If those people had that right, they'd all be dead. As soon as people start firing back at soldiers, it stops being uneasy soldiers firing at crowds unahppily because they feel threatened, and it starts being professional soldiers shooting down insurgents left and right.

    It is incredibly foolish to think that having a gun would have helped anyone here.

    As a former military man, I can tell you with absolute surety that soldiers will always win against civilians. Soldiers have the equipment, the training, the back-up, the comms. Civilians have an old gun that might scare a blagger but looks like a joke compared to a well-kept assault rifle, let alone a tank.

    If a foreign power were to occupy the United States, the only thing that would come of all the guns lying around your nation is a grossly inflated civilian death toll. Sorry, but it's true -- ask anyone with military experience.
    Maybe. But the last time a foreign power tried to occupy the United States, all those guns lying around came in pretty handy. We won.

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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Maybe. But the last time a foreign power tried to occupy the United States, all those guns lying around came in pretty handy. We won.
    When was that? XD

    As I recall, the American War of Independence was won by the French, and the War of 1812, you lost.

    In fact, even in your own Civil War, the individualistic, rural, independent South was overrun by the industrialised North, even though nearly every Southern male from 16 to 40 owned a gun and tried to fight the Yankees.

    Again, it's not a comforting thought, but your own history shows, better than any generalisation I could make -- owning your own guns will simply get you killed, and it does nothing to stop the enemy.

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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    As I recall, the American War of Independence was won by the French.
    Is that what they've been teaching you Brits in history class?

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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    If those people had that right, they'd all be dead. As soon as people start firing back at soldiers, it stops being uneasy soldiers firing at crowds unahppily because they feel threatened, and it starts being professional soldiers shooting down insurgents left and right.

    It is incredibly foolish to think that having a gun would have helped anyone here.

    As a former military man, I can tell you with absolute surety that soldiers will always win against civilians. Soldiers have the equipment, the training, the back-up, the comms. Civilians have an old gun that might scare a blagger but looks like a joke compared to a well-kept assault rifle, let alone a tank.

    If a foreign power were to occupy the United States, the only thing that would come of all the guns lying around your nation is a grossly inflated civilian death toll. Sorry, but it's true -- ask anyone with military experience.
    I'm sorry to tell you this. But most of the gun owners in the states HAVE military experience. Most were in nam or some of other frequent wars the US starts. We are the big kids with the large penis in this world.

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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    lethal force against unarmed protestors is disgusting, no matter where it is.

    somebodys brothers, uncles, cousins, boyfriends, sons, fathers.

    just horrible.




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    The US would do the same thing. And viktor would defend the government's action.

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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by Gray_Fox_86 View Post
    Can't wait for Israel to fall.
    Israel already had its democratic revolution in 1948 and the protesters in all these states, Tunisia, Egypt, Libya and others, even the Arabs living in the territories, wish they had a government exactly like Israel's.

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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    isn't libya a member of the un's human rights commission?

    wow!

    that's GOTTA be embarrassing

    to someone

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    Re: Hundreds of Libyans shot down

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Is that what they've been teaching you Brits in history class?
    And what do they teach you? That Washington and a few militiamen stood up to the might of the British Empire and won? XD Take a look at the history books -- even those in the States, I think. Washington's only two victories before French intervention were when he snuck across the Delaware on Christmas Eve and murdered a bunch of Germans in their drunken sleep. Even Washington rights, in well-publicised letters, that his cause would be lost if the French didn't step in. That's why the Marquis de Lafayette was Washington's right-hand man -- Washington needed to impress France, because only French aide could turn the tide against Britain.

    Which is exactly what happened. France sent thousands of pounds worth of material aid, about 8000 soldiers (which was, I might add, a huge amount at the time and larger than the regular Colonial army), and its fleet. In fact, France sent so much aide to the colonies, just to piss off Britain, that it nearly bankrupted itself and set the stage for the French Revolution to occur shortly after.

    It's fact. France is the reason you're a nation today. Why do people deny this? Where's the shame in that?

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