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House blocks funding for health care law

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House blocks funding for health care law - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2012 Election - USATODAY.com


The GOP-led House voted today to block funding to implement the nation's health care law.

The action came on several amendments to a must-pass spending bill that would pay for government operations from March through September.

Specifically, the House voted to prohibit any funds be used by the Internal Revenue Service to carry out the law's mandate that Americans buy health insurance. The individual mandate, one of the law's key tenets, has been struck down by federal courts.

Might the wicked witch be dead?

Unconstitutional and defunded.

The first extremely important step in the road to recovery is to kill Obamacare in its tracks.
 
What ever it takes to kill this monstrosity I am for it. This nonsense along with Cap and Trade are economy killers.

Besides it tells Obama his days a Dictator are numbered, I hope.
 
The House can vote all they like. But it won't make it passed the Senate. And even if it does, Obama will veto the bill. Good job, GOP! More time wasting!
 
Those right-wing bastards, we're all going to die....and our children too. :lol:
 
The House can vote all they like. But it won't make it passed the Senate. And even if it does, Obama will veto the bill. Good job, GOP! More time wasting!

Spending bills start in the House, so if Senators want their money for their states they can't vote it down forever. If the House sticks together and to its plan....it controls spending. The Senate can't originate a spending bill.
 
Spending bills start in the House, so if Senators want their money for their states they can't vote it down forever. If the House sticks together and to its plan....it controls spending. The Senate can't originate a spending bill.

But the Senate can negotiate it. If the Senate won't pass it, then it won't get passed. That's how it works. They have to come to a compromise. And like I said, Obama will just veto it if it makes it through the Senate (which it won't). Anybody who thinks Obama won't veto this bill is sadly mistaken.
 
it's part of the appropriations

a veto will "shut down the govt"

your move, mr prez
 
The House can vote all they like. But it won't make it passed the Senate. And even if it does, Obama will veto the bill. Good job, GOP! More time wasting!

Well if it manages to get as far as being Vetoed does Obama really think they'll remake the entire ordeal and then actually vote it *through* - it'll die after that due to a lack of action and rollover.

Mission Accomplished.
 
But the Senate can negotiate it. If the Senate won't pass it, then it won't get passed. That's how it works. They have to come to a compromise. And like I said, Obama will just veto it if it makes it through the Senate (which it won't). Anybody who thinks Obama won't veto this bill is sadly mistaken.

The President isn't King, the Senate has a slim majority for the Dem's and Obama will be forced to shut down the gov't or sign the bill.
 
Here is what is going to happen in the next two years, the House will vote down, and try to stop all the progress the Dems have made the past two years, and then the Senate will stop that, so basically no progress will happen, and we will experience another 2 years of futility that is the United States Government.

Just to save everybody some time.
 
The President isn't King, the Senate has a slim majority for the Dem's and Obama will be forced to shut down the gov't or sign the bill.

Again, you're assuming that it will make it passed the Senate in its present form. Dems may have a slim majority in the Senate, but it's still a majority. Of course the president isn't king. But he has that veto pen. The one granted to him by the Constitution. A gov't shutdown won't necessarily be viewed by the public as the fault of Obama. Look what happened in the 90s. Republicans got blamed for it and lost big time in 96.
 
House blocks funding for health care law - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2012 Election - USATODAY.com




Might the wicked witch be dead?

Unconstitutional and defunded.

The first extremely important step in the road to recovery is to kill Obamacare in its tracks.

If you conservatives want Obamacare dead with no health insurance bill to replace it, then you had better do a lot of prayin' to whatever god you worship, because once it reaches the likes of Mr. Joe "I didn't have health insurance before this law" Average, the game is over. It isn't like total repeal of the law is getting more popular, either. According to Rasmussin one month ago, 75% wanted the law changed, but only 20% wanted it totally scrapped. 28% wanted it repealed but wanted the most popular provisions made into law, with 27% wanting the law to remain but scrap the unpopular provisions (source:
75% Want Health Care Law Changed - Rasmussen Reports™ ). 18% wanted the law to remain as-is.

That was in January. Welcome to February, where only 57% of voters now favor repeal, and 38% oppose (Health Care Law - Rasmussen Reports™).

So, unless you conservatives get some sort of miracle here with the voting public, get ready to have some health insurance - like it or not.
 
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Again, you're assuming that it will make it passed the Senate in its present form. Dems may have a slim majority in the Senate, but it's still a majority. Of course the president isn't king. But he has that veto pen. The one granted to him by the Constitution. A gov't shutdown won't necessarily be viewed by the public as the fault of Obama. Look what happened in the 90s. Republicans got blamed for it and lost big time in 96.

Seems as though the cons have suddenly forgotten about the 60 vote threshold so predominately used by the 111th Republicans. They're 13 shy of that.
 
this aint the 90's

what's gonna happen is this:

this appropriations has now at least five strips of obamacare funding---the hiring of irs to enforce the mandate, the hiring of hhs, no money for "implementation," the setting up of the exchanges, and the requirement that employers insure employees up to 750K

House pulls plug on health law funds - David Nather - POLITICO.com

to tell you the truth, there are more stonewalls that boehner has bullied thru, tho i'll confess i've lost track of the pitts amendment on conscience-driven abortion funding

anyway, it sounds like you are unaware of what's been going on in boehner's bailiwick this week, tho it's all over msnbc in the morning and of course dominating cspan

the bright orange dude who chain smokes promised that he would reverse pelosi's petrograd procedurals, by allowing open amendments, and debate

so there were hundreds offered and they've been fighting...

last i heard, probably thursday morning, they had got thru about 60 of em

they were still huffing til 3:30 am wednesday, for example

that you probably heard

dumb like a fox, they were calling the speaker who looks like a traffic cone, it was gonna take forever to get all this stuff thru appropriations, which aint universally called "must pass legislation" for nothin

the point---each of these passed stonewalls will be presented to the ms mccaskills and mr manchins and mr's nelson and nelson, et al

and, yes, absolutely, a bunch of these amendments will survive the scared-to-death scenario---why do you think THREE up-in-2012 blues in red states have already QUIT, enhanced yesterday by mr bingaman's bombshell

the hiring of irs, for instance---you can forget about that one, even a senator like RUSS FEINGOLD woulda dumped on dat

the implementation, the exchanges---these will be the most important and crucial votes in the long or short senatorial careers of---ben nelson, claire mccaskill, jon tester, joe manchin, bill nelson, sherrod brown, bob casey, herb kohl, debbie stabenow, amy klobuchar...

and you could include kent conrad, combat boots webb, bingaman and jiltin joe lieberman---if they still had senatorial careers to look forward to

upshot---the mandate

an amendment to halt funding of this criminalization of americans, mostly young, caught breathing without insurance---the party of petrograd is gonna have a lot of problems with it

ms mccaskill has already tipped her hand, this extremely loyal obamacare water carrier, so far

bill nelson also declared, and joe manchin, who won west virginia by putting a bullet thru cap and trade, actively CAMPAIGNED against the mandate

that was only 3 months ago, the former gub now solon is UP already in 12, sitting in kkk byrd's seat

Dems up for reelection under pressure to nix healthcare mandate - TheHill.com

McCaskill moves away from mandate - David Catanese - POLITICO.com

you must also keep in mind that whatever differences exist between the senate bill and boehner's blueprint must then go to reconciliation, the party in power is in a huge hurry, and the caltrans cone has about 260, a prodigious preponderance

what will happen is---a must-pass appropriations will be plopped perfunctorily on the president's rolltop, one he don't prefer, and he will be hard pressed

ie, he aint gonna veto SQUAT

because to do so he'd have to go against CLAIRE MCCASKILL

in order to SHUT DOWN THE GOVT

stay up, respect yourself
 
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this aint the 90's

what's gonna happen is this:

ie, he aint gonna veto SQUAT

because to do so he'd have to go against CLAIRE MCCASKILL

in order to SHUT DOWN THE GOVT

stay up, respect yourself

You are sadly mistaken if you believe that Obama isn't going to veto a bill that defunds his signature legislation. You don't seriously believe that do you? I don't know what you're smoking, but I'd sure like some of it.
 
But the Senate can negotiate it. If the Senate won't pass it, then it won't get passed. That's how it works. They have to come to a compromise. And like I said, Obama will just veto it if it makes it through the Senate (which it won't). Anybody who thinks Obama won't veto this bill is sadly mistaken.

That was never my point, Obama is not in the driver's seat because the same excuse used regarding Gingrich doesn't exist in this case (of shutting down government). The House has legitimate, voter-backed reasons for what they want to do.
 
tell it to claire mccaskill
 
Again, you're assuming that it will make it passed the Senate in its present form. Dems may have a slim majority in the Senate, but it's still a majority. Of course the president isn't king. But he has that veto pen. The one granted to him by the Constitution. A gov't shutdown won't necessarily be viewed by the public as the fault of Obama. Look what happened in the 90s. Republicans got blamed for it and lost big time in 96.

They did, but that was before alternative media outlets gave people a different perspective then the DNC talking points. 15 years ago people didn't have the internet to help them decide whether the talking heads on TV were being honest. Now they know better.

The public DID btw speak out, they voted the Dem's into oblivion in the House, and the Senate is a bare majority. The people spoke, the Republicans have listened, will the Dem's get the message or keep ignoring the will of the people?
 
They did, but that was before alternative media outlets gave people a different perspective then the DNC talking points. 15 years ago people didn't have the internet to help them decide whether the talking heads on TV were being honest. Now they know better.

The public DID btw speak out, they voted the Dem's into oblivion in the House, and the Senate is a bare majority. The people spoke, the Republicans have listened, will the Dem's get the message or keep ignoring the will of the people?

Can you quit with this MSM farce? How can conservatives sit on their high horse of illogical reasoning and not notice that they whine and cry about this force called the "MSM" and then brag that Fox News has the highest ratings of any news station. Fox News is the definition of the MSM and you watch it. Just stop. Use your head.

And if the conservatives force a government shut down... I think we'll all see just how childish they are.
 
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