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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    That tells me that payback is a bitch. Obama, Pelosi and Reid should have thought of that before they ignored the GOP when constructing and ramming down our throats the piece of **** called the Healthcare Bill in the first place. Where was that "compromise" you are suddenly talking about?
    You mean the health care law that has Republican ideas in it? The one that has the individual mandate, which was a Republican alternative to Hillary Clinton's health care plan in the 90s? The mandate that was based on Mitt Romney's health care plan in MA? That one? The private market-based health care law, as opposed to single payer? Nope, no Republican ideas here folks. Nothing to see. Move along now.


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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Wee gee I hate to tell you this, but this isn't 94 .....
    know nothing of history?....newt and his hillbillies shut gov't down in 94....if you goobers wanna try again i predict a similar outcome

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    never in american history, before obamacare, has major reform been foisted on the folks without broad bipartisan support

    in 1935 fdr's soc sec act received 84% of house republican assent and 76% of reds in joe robinson's senate

    lbj's civil rights act of 64 enjoyed the backing of 82% of everett dirksen's republicans (vs only 69% of dems) and 80% republican support downstairs (63% of dems)

    the medicare act of 65 got 51% of republicans in upper parliament and 41% downstairs

    Social Security Online - HISTORY: Vote tallies on 1935 law

    Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    in cantankerous contrast, obamacare was CRAMMED---it got ONE republican vote in both chambers, mr cao's, the vietnamese seminarian from new orleans who was voted OUT on tsunami tuesday

    indeed, just 36 hours before it was RECONCILED the party in power was prepared to DEEM the damn thing

    LOL!

    live it, libs, love it

    it's all YOURS
    Last edited by The Prof; 02-19-11 at 04:08 PM.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    never in american history, before obamacare, has major reform been foisted on the folks without broad bipartisan support

    in 1935 fdr's soc sec act received 84% of house republican assent and 76% of reds in joe robinson's senate

    lbj's civil rights act of 64 enjoyed the backing of 82% of everett dirksen's republicans (vs only 69% of dems) and 80% republican support downstairs (63% of dems)

    the medicare act of 65 got 51% of republicans in upper parliament and 41% downstairs

    Social Security Online - HISTORY: Vote tallies on 1935 law

    Civil Rights Act of 1964 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Social Security Online

    in cantankerous, obamacare was CRAMMED---it got ONE republican vote in both chambers, mr cao's, the vietnamese seminarian from new orleans who was voted OUT on tsunami tuesday

    indeed, just 36 hours before it was RECONCILED the party in power was prepared to DEEM the damn thing

    LOL!

    live it, libs, love it

    it's all YOURS
    simply shows how the wealthy have the gop completely by the balls from snowe to barton

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    LOL!

    bill clinton endorses TAX CUTS FOR THE RICH

    At Obama's side, Clinton backs tax deal - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by diablo45 View Post
    know nothing of history?....newt and his hillbillies shut gov't down in 94....if you goobers wanna try again i predict a similar outcome
    well it's you idiots that control 2/3 of the government, so if you want to shut it down, go ahead and do it. your predictions mean nothing

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by diablo45 View Post
    well put, the gop can pander to its base, but it can't pass legislation
    chuckles... well the very same thing can be said for the dem's .... while they are pandering to their base, they also will not pass any legislation, and in the case of the health care bill, not passing anything, simply means no funding for it .. so the out come is the same. "NO FUNDING"

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    Grow up yourself and learn how to read. The public option was/is supported by a majority of Americans. That fact is not in dispute. The Senate cold not pass the public option because Republicans filibustered it. Another fact that you conveniently overlooked.

    Here is where you theory is full of holes, when the health care bill was passed, it was passed without a single republican vote in either house.

    The fact that their wasn't a public option in there can only be blamed on those that passed the bill. If you have enough power to pass a bill without a single republican vote, then you certainly have enough power to have whatever you want to have in that bill.

    If that public option was supported, as you say by the majority of Americans, then the fault that it's not law right now, is a direct result of the democrats and no one else.

    I'll repeat this, if you can pass a bill with not a single vote from the opposing party, then you can have whatever you want in that bill, and still pass the bill. Don't run around blaming Republicans because democrats couldn't get the support from their own party to add the public option in.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    You mean the health care law that has Republican ideas in it? The one that has the individual mandate, which was a Republican alternative to Hillary Clinton's health care plan in the 90s? The mandate that was based on Mitt Romney's health care plan in MA? That one? The private market-based health care law, as opposed to single payer? Nope, no Republican ideas here folks. Nothing to see. Move along now.
    You mean the universal mandate that was just one of numerous Republican sponsored bills in the 90's? You mean the universal mandate that was put in a health care plan that was aimed to be a compromise piece of legislation that had hopes of passing in a Democratic controlled government and not simply made up of pure conservative ideas? You mean that universal mandate that was part of a health care plan that was rapidly and completely abandoned by Republicans back in the 90's once actual research into its costs was done and it was found to be wholey impossible to be done responsibly. Y You mean the significantly government mandated and interfering health care long that is nothing close to a free "private" market? You mean the Massachusetts health care law that came about due in large part because the constituents of that state was significantly different than the make up of the country? You mean the one that is one of the main quoted reasons Mitt is likely to have an extremely difficult time in the primaries? You mean that mandate and plan? Is that the one you're speaking of?

    Oh, I guess nothing to see. Move along now.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    The House can vote all they like. But it won't make it passed the Senate. And even if it does, Obama will veto the bill. Good job, GOP! More time wasting!
    All bills originate in the HOUSE, if the Senate wants to freeze all government expenditures its their choice, as the GOP laughs all the way to 2012. They will have to answer to THE PEOPLE for demanding that funds be allocated for a program that has been ruled to be constitutional. Remember....28 out of the 50 states (a majority) have declared this act to be unconstitutional. Regardless of what the COURT does....2012 will be decided by MAJORITY RULE. Its a most difficult thing to go against the majority where all acts of governmental procedure are ruled by the Majority position in this Constitutional Republic, also remember that not one CIVIL or MINORITY right came into existence without support of that same MAJORITY. We are witnessing WE THE PEOPLE say, "ENOUGH".
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