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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    No, I'm not. I'm saying the House can vote to kill it all they want. But until it passes the Senate and gets signed by Obama, the spending bill goes nowhere. Is this really that hard to understand? The House passes a bill. It then goes to the Senate. If the House and Senate can agree and draft a final bill, it then goes to the president to sign or veto. In its present form this bill will not only die in the Senate, but even if by some miracle it gets passed the Senate, Obama will veto it. Do you really believe that Obama will not veto a bill that essentially kills his signature legislation?

    You can wish all you want that the SCOTUS will strike down the law, but that doesn't make it so.
    well put, the gop can pander to its base, but it can't pass legislation

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Can you quit with this MSM farce? How can conservatives sit on their high horse of illogical reasoning and not notice that they whine and cry about this force called the "MSM" and then brag that Fox News has the highest ratings of any news station. Fox News is the definition of the MSM and you watch it. Just stop. Use your head.

    And if the conservatives force a government shut down... I think we'll all see just how childish they are.
    How are conservatives forcing a government shut down? They only control the house, and from what I am reading they are passing a bill that would allow the government to continue to run.

    So in your liberal thinking, a senate controlled by democrats, voting to not pass the bill, or a liberal president vetoing the bill, that shuts down the government is the fault of the conservatives???

    I swear, I'll never understand the liberal blame game.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    the NY Times, a supposed liberal news source, was unbiased enough to cover this story
    LOL!

    how could the lady overlook the fox news war, anita dunn (whose favorite philosopher is mao) made it front and center

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    How are conservatives forcing a government shut down? They only control the house, and from what I am reading they are passing a bill that would allow the government to continue to run.

    So in your liberal thinking, a senate controlled by democrats, voting to not pass the bill, or a liberal president vetoing the bill, that shuts down the government is the fault of the conservatives???

    I swear, I'll never understand the liberal blame game.
    well, i think it was 94 when the friends of the wealthy shut down the gov't when the hillbillies then controlled the house

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    if the public option were popular the senate with its sixty dems and pelosi's place with her plurality of seventy six woulda passed it

    if the mandate were admired mr manchin wouldn't have campaigned against it

    if the govt shuts down it will be because the prez vetoed appropriations

    grow up

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    How are conservatives forcing a government shut down? They only control the house, and from what I am reading they are passing a bill that would allow the government to continue to run.

    So in your liberal thinking, a senate controlled by democrats, voting to not pass the bill, or a liberal president vetoing the bill, that shuts down the government is the fault of the conservatives???

    I swear, I'll never understand the liberal blame game.
    If the GOP passes legislation that they know for certain Obama will veto (without working with Dems on a true compromise), then yes, I put the blame on the GOP if there is a gov't shutdown over it. Defunding or repealing the health care law is a non-starter. Obama has repeatedly said that he will veto any legislation that guts the law. The GOP knows that. But they passed it anyway. What does that tell you?


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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    If the GOP passes legislation that they know for certain Obama will veto (without working with Dems on a true compromise), then yes, I put the blame on the GOP if there is a gov't shutdown over it. Defunding or repealing the health care law is a non-starter. Obama has repeatedly said that he will veto any legislation that guts the law. The GOP knows that. But they passed it anyway. What does that tell you?
    That tells me that payback is a bitch. Obama, Pelosi and Reid should have thought of that before they ignored the GOP when constructing and ramming down our throats the piece of **** called the Healthcare Bill in the first place. Where was that "compromise" you are suddenly talking about?

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by diablo45 View Post
    well, i think it was 94 when the friends of the wealthy shut down the gov't when the hillbillies then controlled the house
    Wee gee I hate to tell you this, but this isn't 94 .....

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    if the public option were popular the senate with its sixty dems and pelosi's place with her plurality of seventy six woulda passed it

    if the mandate were admired mr manchin wouldn't have campaigned against it

    if the govt shuts down it will be because the prez vetoed appropriations

    grow up
    Grow up yourself and learn how to read. The public option was/is supported by a majority of Americans. That fact is not in dispute. The Senate cold not pass the public option because Republicans filibustered it. Another fact that you conveniently overlooked.

    Just under 60 percent of those surveyed said they would like a public option as part of any final healthcare reform legislation, which Republicans and a few Democrats oppose.

    Here are some of the results of the telephone survey of 2,999 households called from November 9-17 as part of the Thomson Reuters PULSE Healthcare Survey:

    * Believe in public option: 59.9 percent yes, 40.1 percent no.

    * 86 percent of Democrats support the public option versus 57 percent of Independents and 33 percent of Republicans.

    Most in U.S. want public health option: poll | Reuters
    A new national survey conducted between April 6th and 10th by researchers from Indiana University’s Center for Health Policy and Professionalism Research (CHPPR) finds that while 58% of Americans support repealing the law a majority of those that favor repeal want Congress to pass more liberal legislation that includes a public option:

    When asked how important they thought it was for Congress to work on “establishment of a public option that would give individuals a choice between government provided health insurance or private health insurance,” 67 percent of Americans rated this as an important topic to address. This finding is even more striking given the fact that 59 percent of those in favor of repealing the health care reform legislation rated the public option as important to pursue. Another surprise is that 67 percent of Republicans and 59 percent of Independents also agreed that the public option was an important topic to be addressed by Congress.

    Wonk Room POLL: 59% Of Those In Favor Of Repeal Want Congress To Pursue The Public Option


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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Sgt Meowenstein View Post
    If the GOP passes legislation that they know for certain Obama will veto (without working with Dems on a true compromise), then yes, I put the blame on the GOP if there is a gov't shutdown over it. Defunding or repealing the health care law is a non-starter. Obama has repeatedly said that he will veto any legislation that guts the law. The GOP knows that. But they passed it anyway. What does that tell you?
    That tells me that the dem's are unwilling to Compromise.... and the shut down of the government would be blamed on those that control 2/3 of government. But I understand, the liberal mantra is to always blame someone else.

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