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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    says the gentleman whose raison d'etre is class warfare
    You expect us not to fight back?
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Catawba;1059313815]Always enjoy your personal swipes Barb!
    I know .. but you make it so easy at times.

    So as long as its illegal you have no problem with it?
    I happen to have a big problem with it, but those who are invested in those hedge funds are making a profit .. yes or no ?? You know what you're doing, every time you are proven wrong about something, you move off of what we were talking about .... hedge fun managers, huge salaries, are performance based, thus if a fund manager in fact does make a huge salary, it's only because the hedge fund makes huge profits, benefiting those invested.

    Do you mean the way Enron helped those pensions?
    Please explain what Enron has to do with hedge fund managers, you jump around so much in your need to blame anyone that makes money, you are hard to keep up with.

    Because of the importance to the future of our country. So you blame the teachers? Is this what this is all about?
    No, if you could read, I said I'm going to argue like a liberal ... 'cause you seem to be just as intent on only blaming the rich.

    But onto the teachers.
    So you deny that we spend more with less then desired results ?? It's the teacher job to educate them, who's fault is it? Sounds like you are promoting higher prices for poorer education. Its that part of the liberal reform platform? If these teachers want more, how about giving us positive results.

    I guess you opinion should be that the government pays those hedge fund managers 75.000 a year, with great retirement benefits, to lose money in the hedge funds ? Wouldn't that be the same thing?

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    says the gentleman whose raison d'etre is class warfare
    -chuckles- yeah, class warfare, according to liberals is being created by the conservatives, while at the same time, they want to blame 10% of the people for their own shortcomings. What the liberals should be saying is, it's class envy, of those that worked hard, and made the American dream a reality.

    Their theory is that those 10% that made it, and they couldn't, therefore those 10% owe them for their failures, and deserve to have it taken from them, because working harder, taking bigger risks doesn't fit their “I'm owed” mentality.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    I wonder what Catawba and liberals like him that have this jealousy filled hatred for the successful in this nation will do when the wealthy just leave.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    No, if you could read............

    Sorry, haven't found a translator for barbarian speech.
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I wonder what Catawba and liberals like him that have this jealousy filled hatred for the successful in this nation will do when the wealthy just leave.
    governor andrew cuomo's answer:

    New Yorkers are voting with their feet. Two million New Yorkers have left the State over the past decade. What does this say? It says we need radical reform, it says we need a new approach, we need a new perspective and we need it now. We must use this moment to transform our government.

    And I am going to present the budget in several weeks – but this year’s budget discussion is not just about a budget exercise. That’s what those numbers are saying. This is a fundamental realignment for the state.

    We are going to start by transforming New York’s economy. Because what made New York the Empire State was a not a large government complex, it was a vibrant private sector that was creating great jobs in the State of New York that’s what made us the Empire State once and that’s what’s going to make us the Empire State again.

    At the heart of this State is business. And we have to relearn the lesson our founders knew and we have to put up a sign that says New York is open for business. We get it. And this is going to be a business friendly State.

    Next, we are going to have to confront the tax situation in our State. The property taxes in New York are killing New Yorkers. Thirteen of the sixteen highest tax counties are in New York when asset by home value. In absolute dollars, Westchester County the highest property taxes in the United States of America. Nassau County the second highest property taxes in the United State of America. It has to end, it has to end this year. New York has no future as the tax capital of the nation. Our young people will not stay. Our business will not come. This has to change.
    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    -chuckles- yeah, class warfare, according to liberals is being created by the conservatives, while at the same time, they want to blame 10% of the people for their own shortcomings. What the liberals should be saying is, it's class envy, of those that worked hard, and made the American dream a reality.
    Like Paris Hilton?

    The myth that all wealthy people worked for their money is the biggest bunch of b.s. Most wealth is inherited or capital gains.

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    Upper-income tax cuts and tax deal

    "The president’s budget requests have consistently adhered to one campaign pledge: Allow the Bush-era tax cuts for the wealthiest 2% of Americans to expire. Like last year’s budget, this budget proposes to permanently extend middle-class tax relief for individuals earning less than $200,000 and joint-filers earning less than $250,000. This proposal implicitly means allowing the top 33% and 35% marginal tax rates to revert to 36% and 39.6%, respectively, for individuals earning above $200,000 and joint-filers making more than $250,000. The budget also assumes that the personal exemption phase-out and the limitation on itemized deductions are reinstated for these top earners. Finally, the preferential rate on capital gains and dividends would increase from 15% to 20% for upper-income tax filers (prior to the Bush-era tax cuts, qualified dividends had been taxed as ordinary income under progressive tax rates). Last December’s tax deal had extended these upper-income tax cuts through the end of 2012 as the price for securing middle-class tax relief and continuing emergency unemployment insurance.

    December’s tax deal also included a two-year estate tax cut (benefiting only the wealthiest 0.25% of Americans) instead of reinstating the estate tax at 2009 levels, as the president’s 2011 budget had proposed. This year’s budget proposes extending the estate and gift tax rates at 2009 parameters (after the December tax deal expires), adding an estimated $271 billion to deficits over a decade, relative to current law. In contrast, extending the upper-income tax cuts and the estate tax levels in the tax deal would add $953 billion to deficits over the next decade, relative to the president’s proposals, offsetting almost all of the deficit reduction measures in the president’s budget request."

    President Obama
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    his budget?

    LOL!

    his budget is a joke

    it actually raises the deficit 30%

    and in the outyears it relies on interest rates and projected growth ridiculously unreal

    meanwhile, where pen meets paper

    First Read - Obama signs tax cut bill into law

    party on, class warrior

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