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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by reefedjib View Post
    I have no idea how the Healthcare Bill is saying that it will reduce federal outlays of Medicare, when I thought that it was INCREASING Medicare coverage. Something funny is going on, here. Are they reducing or capping Medicare benefits?

    The Hospital Insurance payroll tax and imposing fines generates $410 billion over 7 years and that is including at least 2 years (prior to 2014) where it is not in full effect.

    The whole Healthcare Bill is fishy.
    This references the CBO, but is not by the CBO. I am not familiar with the Hospital Insurance Payroll tax. I will have to research that before I can comment.

    The fees they mention are for manufacturers and insurance companies. Insurance companies have been making record profits at the publics expense through their practices so I have no problem there. Most of the savings,
    $500 billion comes from spending cuts. Wasn't that the goal?
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    To those on corporate welfare -

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    the world is not your mom

    grow up.

    Well said.....................
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    To those on corporate welfare -




    Well said.....................
    Agreed. Obama never should have done that.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This references the CBO, but is not by the CBO. I am not familiar with the Hospital Insurance Payroll tax. I will have to research that before I can comment.
    This was from the preliminary letter from the CBO evaluating H.R. 2, the bill to overturn the Healthcare Bill or whatever.

    The fees they mention are for manufacturers and insurance companies. Insurance companies have been making record profits at the publics expense through their practices so I have no problem there.
    Those companies are going to pass those fees on to the customers, make the same profits, and raise our rates. We the people will end up paying for it. It is effectively a tax on us.


    Most of the savings, $500 billion comes from spending cuts. Wasn't that the goal?
    What are they cutting? Are they cutting Medicare?

    I got it wrong earlier, when I said I thought they were expanding Medicare...it is Medicaid they are expanding.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Agreed. Obama never should have done that.
    Both parties have done it:

    "A report prepared in 2006 by the House Committee on Government Reform, provides a detailed look at federal contracting, one component of the corporate welfare state. (Other components include things like special tax breaks, expansion of anti-consumer intellectual property laws, and the use of public resources for private gain.)

    Here's the reality of the federal contracting piece of the corporate welfare state, through 2005:

    Under Bush, contracting spending increased from $203.1 billion in FY2000 to $377.5 billion in 2005, an average annual increase of 13%
    Nearly half of the increase in spending under Bush was spent on federal contracts
    In 2005, 39% of the discretionary federal budget was paid to private contractors
    More than 90% of the increase was consumed by the Department of Defense, which now accounts for 70% of contracting spending
    Ah, but isn't this an example of reinventing government by infusing entrepreneurial spirit into the public sector?

    Unfortunately, no. It's more like an example of reinventing graft.

    The U.S. Government Accountability Office, agency inspectors general, Defense Contract Audit Agency, and other government investigators identified $745.5 billion in problem contracts
    The top five federal contracts received 21% of all federal contracting spending
    The type of agency you'd expect to benefit for outsourcing, the Department of Transportation, has actually had a 29% reduction in contracting."
    The corporate welfare state - Jed Report


    Its time to end it by both parties, because the middle class is getting screwed.
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    today:

    The Obama administration is gearing up for an influx of state requests to modify the federal-state Medicaid partnership when the nation's governors descend on the capital for their winter meeting next weekend.

    High on state leaders' list of priorities is changing the healthcare reform law's Medicaid expansion, which 26 states challenged in federal court. The issue received renewed attention last week when Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius told Arizona it could drop thousands of Medicaid beneficiaries without running afoul of federal law — something 33 governors have asked to be able to do.

    Sebelius is under heavy pressure to work with states, which are faced with great fiscal strain and worry about the healthcare reform law's requirement that Medicaid cover everyone — even childless adults — up to 133 percent of the Federal Poverty Level. Last month, 33 governors and governors-elect wrote to Sebelius requesting that she lift the reform law's so-called maintenance of effort (MOE) requirement, which restricts states' ability to cut their Medicaid rolls ahead of the expansion in 2014.

    "States are unable to afford the current Medicaid program, yet our hands are tied by the MOE requirements included in the [reform law]," they wrote. "The effect of the federal requirements is unconscionable; [they] force governors to cut other critical state programs, such as education, in order to fund a 'one-size-fits-all' approach to Medicaid."

    In a Feb. 3 letter to state governors, Sebelius outlined several solutions to the states' Medicaid woes, including increasing co-pays and cutting benefits.

    The looming possibility of such massive cuts is causing consternation among healthcare advocates.
    Medicaid fight shapes up as states seek solutions to budget woes - The Hill's Healthwatch

    are you sure these people know what they're doing?
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The President isn't King, the Senate has a slim majority for the Dem's and Obama will be forced to shut down the gov't or sign the bill.
    Showdown at the GOP corral...

    The Reps tried it in 95 and lost, not only the bill, the next election... Remember

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    if the govt does indeed shut down it will be because the president vetoes a continuing resolution

    over something as in-the-presidential-gut as, oh, the hiring of extra IRS AGENTS to enforce the obamacare MANDATE

    LOL!

    seeya in august, alderman

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Let's do it.....the Nation knows what Bammy is doing....can you say "Waterloo"?

    Quote Originally Posted by ricksfolly View Post
    Showdown at the GOP corral...

    The Reps tried it in 95 and lost, not only the bill, the next election... Remember

    ricksfolly
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