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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

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    What is your fault with the CBS poll? Please post your polls that say otherwise.
    Oey vey. I made a comment about each of those sites being liberal. I never stated that I faulted the polls. I'll do that if I decide to look at each of the sites themselves instead of just relying on one site that is claiming something and if I find something wrong with the methods themselves.

    IE it was just a passing comment.
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not at all, only their fair share.
    Just curious, what do you consider "their" fair share? Top end something that they should never pay more then?

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not at all, only their fair share.
    I want the job of deciding what's fair but it seems you find yourself up to the job also.

    In fact taking other people's money is something anyone can do, if we have the law or the weaponry to support us.

    I suppose what's fair is whatever those with power say it is.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    That's a blanket statement if I have ever heard one. If we cut everyone else's taxes but yours so would that make you happier? That way we can have nothing and tax no one else.
    If you want to go to extremes why not tax everyone 100%?

    That way we'll all be rich.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    The SS tax rate was raised almost 30 years ago. Those who are poised to start receiving benefits have been paying a higher than required rate for quite a while in anticipation of these years.

    Yes, I know all about the politicians spending the surplus rather than raising taxes or cutting spending. That doesn't change the fact that those about to receive benefits paid extra into the system for many, many years.
    And the next generation will be paying as well, but they'll get nothing. That is certain.

    Americans, like the Europeans and others, have come to rely on the government to support them despite knowing the reputation of politicians. The hope lingers that this time maybe it will b different despite clear evidence that they cannot be trusted to look after today, much less tomorrow. It's Lucy holding the football while Charlie Brown convinces himself that this time it just might work.

    And of course there are many who will grab the money you save for your future because they think it's "fair" that the government should have it instead.

    What folly, insanity in fact, to put your future and that of your family in the hands of politicians.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

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    House blocks funding for health care law - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2012 Election - USATODAY.com




    Might the wicked witch be dead?

    Unconstitutional and defunded.

    The first extremely important step in the road to recovery is to kill Obamacare in its tracks.
    This is absolutely idiotic. There's NO way that it will pass the senate.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    how do you raise the 106K cap only for the wealthy? Or do you consider that amount a lot.
    As it is currently set up, a person only has to pay into SS on annual income up to the $106,000 cap. Raise the cap and and lock the funds from being used to offset other costs as has been done in the past by both parties and SS is solvent again.
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Just curious, what do you consider "their" fair share? Top end something that they should never pay more then?
    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I want the job of deciding what's fair but it seems you find yourself up to the job also.

    In fact taking other people's money is something anyone can do, if we have the law or the weaponry to support us.

    I suppose what's fair is whatever those with power say it is.
    If might makes right than I suppose that would be correct. However, if looked at from the perspective of equality, since studies have documented that the top 20% own 85% of wealth in the country, that tax class should pay 85% of the taxes, which is very close to the progressive tax rates our forefathers established and were in use during the 50 year period that was the most prosperous time for the most people in our history, until they were slashed by Reagan and Bush.
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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    if looked at from the perspective of equality, since studies have documented that the top 20% own 85% of wealth in the country, that tax class should pay 85% of the taxes
    Bull****. Taxation is not asset-based, it is income based (except for property taxes, but that is a local affair). If the top 20% of income earners earns 85% of income, then at a flat rate of 22%, they would pay 85% of the taxes. Progressive taxation is unfair, inequitable and represents leftist wealth redistribution. It is wrong.

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    Re: House blocks funding for health care law

    Originally Posted by Catawba

    And where did the debt come from? Trillions of it are from nation building wars of choice and tax cuts for the wealthy. And the same party that (talks the talk but doesn't walk the walk) is the party that spent the money. Obama has proposed a 1.1 trillion dollar reduction in spending over a 10 year period. Please link me to a GOP budget proposal in the last decade which cut spending as much.
    Really a profound statement don't you think? In 4 years of budgetary control of the democrats, the yearly budget has risen just over 30% in two years under Obama it has risen narly 24% and now we are suppose to be impressed by a spending cut of 1.1 trillion over 10 years or 111 Billion dollars a year?

    So your profound statement is show me where the republicans have ever decreased spending by 111 billion dollars a year, should have this added, after increasing the budget by 700 billion in two years. Or in simple terms, where republican's have shown a budget deficit of 589 billion for the next ten years.

    Hell, isn't that just about the deficit per year that Bush added? Must mean you are satisfied with that ?
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