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Where's the stimulus?

phattonez said:
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inflation....boogey man of the idle rich; of no concern to the middle class
 
diablo45 said:
the stimulus saved the GREAT RECESSION from becoming the SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION....thank god for fdr and obama
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And you just know that if you vote for him, you arent going to have to worry about anything. He is going to put gas in your car, and pay your bills, and..

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VanceMack said:
I highly doubt it will matter...but it MIGHT be helpful if it was called by what it was: not a stimulus bill, but more deficit spending. Thats NEVER good. Especially when there is no clear cut plan on what the deficit money was spent for. We would have been better off if we had bought everyone in America a new American manufactured car or paid off their mortgage (not that we should have done it...but it would have at least BOUGHT something that would have required production (with the hope being that increased production equals increased jobs equals increased demand).
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how boubt we simply tax the privlidged?
 
VanceMack said:
And you just know that if you vote for him, you arent going to have to worry about anything. He is going to put gas in your car, and pay your bills, and..

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no, i would simply hope he taxed the idle rich (dumb hillbilly)
 
diablo45 said:
how boubt we simply tax the privlidged?
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How about the crippled and dependent pets get off their ass and start proividing for themselves. How about they get educations, make sacrifices, prepare their children for a future. Oh...two can play thyis mindless class warfare bull**** my friend.

WHy raise taxes on ANYONE when both parties spend money like crack fiends? My position has been pretty clear...pass legislatively mandated spending cuts, gut the fed, and I will full on support legislatively sundowned tax increases specifically to pay off the debt.
 
diablo45 said:
inflation....boogey man of the idle rich; of no concern to the middle class
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unbelievable

Food, gas, clothing, personal care products and cleaning and laundry supplies make up less than a quarter of household spending in the United States, according to government data. People at the bottom of the income scale struggle more as these prices rise, of course, because a larger share of their spending is on such essentials.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/business/15prices.html
 
diablo45 said:
no, i would simply hope he taxed the idle rich (dumb hillbilly)
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Yes of COURSE you would hope that so the government could give you MORE free cheese.

This dumb hillbilly isnt the one crying for government help. This dumb hillbilly has provided quite well for himself, his family, and grandkids.

Im also smart enough to see that the two political parties pander to weak willed pathetic mindless assholes for their votes. And it works.
 
The Prof said:
why can't the prez pronounce the suddenly obscene s-word

Echo Chamber: The new S-word? - Alexander Trowbridge - POLITICO.com

Just don't call it a 'stimulus' - Alexander Burns - POLITICO.com

Carney slips, mentioning 'stimulus' | POLITICO 44
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Question: “Because unemployment at the time was 8.1% – the charts that were initially put out suggested that we would be below – we would be below 7% at this point – uhh, we’re at 9%, so…?”

“I -I – We said, and I’ll repeat that we don’t want to re litigate the past, but uhh, this is what I was getting at in my answer, is the the projections the economic team made at the time were based upon the numbers that everyone had at the time and were reflected in the projections made by a lot of outside economic analysts and institutions. Uh, the reality as time passed, was that the hole we were in, this country was in as President Obama was sworn into office was much deeper than even we knew in December and November prior to that."

Beayooootiful.
 
VanceMack said:
Yes of COURSE you would hope that so the government could give you MORE free cheese.

This dumb hillbilly isnt the one crying for government help. This dumb hillbilly has provided quite well for himself, his family, and grandkids.

Im also smart enough to see that the two political parties pander to weak willed pathetic mindless assholes for their votes. And it works.
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well, i ain't sure, but somehow i think you've supported white citizens councils, george wallace, ronald reagan, george bush and every other shill of the weathy thats come along
 
VanceMack said:
Question: “Because unemployment at the time was 8.1% – the charts that were initially put out suggested that we would be below – we would be below 7% at this point – uhh, we’re at 9%, so…?”

“I -I – We said, and I’ll repeat that we don’t want to re litigate the past, but uhh, this is what I was getting at in my answer, is the the projections the economic team made at the time were based upon the numbers that everyone had at the time and were reflected in the projections made by a lot of outside economic analysts and institutions. Uh, the reality as time passed, was that the hole we were in, this country was in as President Obama was sworn into office was much deeper than even we knew in December and November prior to that."

Beayooootiful.
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obams inherited the trainwreck of 08 caused by 28 years of "more for the rich"
 
VanceMack said:
Yes of COURSE you would hope that so the government could give you MORE free cheese.

This dumb hillbilly isnt the one crying for government help. This dumb hillbilly has provided quite well for himself, his family, and grandkids.

Im also smart enough to see that the two political parties pander to weak willed pathetic mindless assholes for their votes. And it works.
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yeah...and i've worked MY whole life and provided for kids and grandkids.....just read enough books instead of watchin nascar to not be a fool for the wealthy....read up on sherman anti-trust instead of watchin dale this weekend!
 
hillbillies...

nascar...

inflation---no concern to the middle class...

LOL!
 
Badmutha said:
Hoax.............

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Unemployemnt Rate Since Obama's "Stimulus/Jobs Bill"
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To believe that without Obama it would have been worse......and when its worse.....it would have been worser.......

.......is to believe an unemployment rate of 15%..... 8 years after the new deal was a "Success"......
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The federal reserve has now resorted to the techniques used by president Mugabe of Zimbabwe to get the country out of the hole... although there are countless other examples... it will become hyper-inflationary, BUT the US DOES have a huge money pool that it is diluting with the newly printed cash.

diablo45 said:
the stimulus saved the GREAT RECESSION from becoming the SECOND GREAT DEPRESSION....thank god for fdr and obama
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Here's the problem, the numbers that you believe show success are so cooked it's not even funny. 9% unemployment... ha, you mean 9% on the unemployment line, it's only part of the picture.

The stock markets are so rigged that even the regulators can't keep up... and ALL of the bailouts went to boost wall st. Meanwhile, the little guys are left as 'too small to save'...

The jobs that are left are all being shipped overseas, and the only jobs left will be government jobs, or through government contracts...
 
diablo45 said:
well, i ain't sure, but somehow i think you've supported white citizens councils, george wallace, ronald reagan, george bush and every other shill of the weathy thats come along
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You wouldnt be even close to being correct. I left the republican party in 2003 because of their irresponsible spending. So...your mindless partisan bull**** doesnt work with me. I see every day the results of what has happened by increasing the welfare state, by placing people afflicted with nothing more than malingering with mental health labels and then watching their lives dangle...and people on the left call this 'helping'. People like you have contributed to the looming nightmare and your only answer is "give us MORE!!! Tax THEM!!! Hey mom...do we have any more cheetos? Hey...its dark here in the basement...you and dad ever going to put some lights i? Hell its been this way for 42 years! Oh...and I'm finished mom...come wipe my butt!"
 
BmanMcfly said:
The federal reserve has now resorted to the techniques used by president Mugabe of Zimbabwe to get the country out of the hole... although there are countless other examples... it will become hyper-inflationary, BUT the US DOES have a huge money pool that it is diluting with the newly printed cash.



Here's the problem, the numbers that you believe show success are so cooked it's not even funny. 9% unemployment... ha, you mean 9% on the unemployment line, it's only part of the picture.

The stock markets are so rigged that even the regulators can't keep up... and ALL of the bailouts went to boost wall st. Meanwhile, the little guys are left as 'too small to save'...

The jobs that are left are all being shipped overseas, and the only jobs left will be government jobs, or through government contracts...
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yeah, well nothin wrong with gov't jobs as long as they're union
 
VanceMack said:
You wouldnt be even close to being correct. I left the republican party in 2003 because of their irresponsible spending. So...your mindless partisan bull**** doesnt work with me. I see every day the results of what has happened by increasing the welfare state, by placing people afflicted with nothing more than malingering with mental health labels and then watching their lives dangle...and people on the left call this 'helping'. People like you have contributed to the looming nightmare and your only answer is "give us MORE!!! Tax THEM!!! Hey mom...do we have any more cheetos? Hey...its dark here in the basement...you and dad ever going to put some lights i? Hell its been this way for 42 years! Oh...and I'm finished mom...come wipe my butt!"
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try this, lib.....in 1980, the richest 1% of americans controlled 8% of the nations weath; in 2008, 24%(!)....thanks to gop and libertatian tax cuts for the privlidged, ALL at the expense of the middle class...and yet you ignoramus' continue to see the POOR as our nations problem....like i say, READ a little more, watch a little tv
 
diablo45 said:
yeah, well nothin wrong with gov't jobs as long as they're union
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Look, if all the jobs are government / service jobs, this might as well be called the USSA.
 
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on the day after the midterms, the fed pumped an additional 600 billion into quantitative easing, on top of the 1.7 trillion of public trust already advanced

Fed to Buy $600 Billion of Treasurys - WSJ.com

the next week, oblivious obama offed to asia for his g20 in seoul---he seemed seriously surprised when the international reaction to his call for a clean chinese currency was---who are you to talk to us about the dollar

the nat'l journal dubbed obama's futile foray to the far east his RODNEY DANGERFIELD moment

NationalJournal.com - America?s Rodney Dangerfield Moment - Friday, November 12, 2010

the ny times reported, "obama's economic views rejected on world stage"

Obama's economic views rejected on world stage - The Boston Globe

on jan 16, reuters recounted that bernanke's bold bid placed the us taxpayer as essentially cosigner for the purchase of some 2.5 trillion of treasury debt and mortgage-backed securities

ie, junk

the kicker was the economist's calling out the planet-sized portfolio as dangerously UNDIVERSIFIED

Could the U.S. central bank go broke? - Yahoo! India Finance

what's the first rule of sound investment?

2.5T of t-bills and mortgage-backed garbage

spin, anyone?
 
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diablo45 said:
inflation....boogey man of the idle rich; of no concern to the middle class
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Of no concern to the middle class? Who do you think is most affected by rising prices and dwindling real savings?
 
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