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    City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    A veteran city firefighter's refusal to respond to the Jan. 8 shooting spree, citing "political bantering," may have slowed his Tucson Fire Department unit's response to the incident that left six dead and 13 wounded, city memos show.
    The firefighter, Mark Ekstrum, retired from his 28-year career two days later, while his supervisors were still considering how to discipline him, internal memos obtained by the Arizona Daily Star in a public-records request show.
    In a Jan. 9 report on Ekstrum's actions, fire Capt. Ben Williams wrote that when Ekstrum first told him he would not go out on the call, "he mentioned something about 'political bantering' and he did not want to be part of it." He said he was acting "for the good of the crew."
    Williams said he told Ekstrum he could not refuse a call for that reason, and then talked to the firefighter privately in his office. He said Ekstrum "started to say something about how he had a much different political viewpoint than the rest of the crew and he was concerned." Despite being told that was not acceptable, Williams said Ekstrum informed him he was going home "sick," so they answered the call without him.
    It pretty much speaks for the current political division in our country.


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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    What is noted in the article that the fireman actually liked Giffords but a statement in the article stated "He said Ekstrum "started to say something about how he had a much different political viewpoint than the rest of the crew and he was concerned."

    With different political views some are now having a hard time working together. Slowly the thread of our country pulls apart.

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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    This doesn't speak to anything but the fact that this guy is a complete and utter moron who should have retired a few years ago, back before his brain was singed to a crisp.

    Let me put it like this: There are people, in every field, and of every political persuasion, who are just done, have lost their motivation, and should be put out to pasture.

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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    This guy should be sued and stripped of his retirement and benefits.

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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    It pretty much speaks for the current political division in our country.


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    Actrually it shows one idiot, who rightfully is no longer a firefighter.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Wait. They call the fire department in response to a shooting?
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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Wait. They call the fire department in response to a shooting?


    Often the FD acts as first responders, like EMTs.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    So he didn't respond because of his politics? I don't understand... what 'political bantering' is he referring to?
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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    So he didn't respond because of his politics? I don't understand... what 'political bantering' is he referring to?
    If you read the article it shows something different. I think the guy was not emotionally prepared to go on the call, therefore, he was right to retire. I hope there is no action against him. His record was good in the past.
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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    If you read the article it shows something different. I think the guy was not emotionally prepared to go on the call, therefore, he was right to retire. I hope there is no action against him. His record was good in the past.
    So then there wasn't any political bantering?
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