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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    What this really speaks to is this firefighter violating his Oath, being a narrow minded idiot and I think he should have been fired on the spot and if at all possible charges of some kind brought against this jerk.
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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    However, in the statement he submitted to the department late Wednesday - a statement the department was not expecting - he said he was distraught over the shootings and was "distracted to the point of not being able to perform my routine station duties to such an extent that I seriously doubted my ability to focus on an emergency call."He said he failed to effectively communicate that was the reason he needed to go home and "my communication centered more on how this event would affect the country and them and us, and, of course, led to their misunderstanding about my need to go home because I was at a point of distraction."

    you have got to be kidding me. this is a guy with 28 years experience and he was so distraught he couldn't perform his normal duties?

    as a critical care paramedic i call bull****. that's what we are paid to do and it doesn't take you 28 years to figure out you can't do it.


    now if he had something else going on and didn't feel he could perform to a required level (sickness, family problems etc, which can happen,) then he needed to be up front about it and tell his work colleagues. you don't wait until it's time to go on a call out and then say i can't do this. time is of the essence.
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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Very very strange story. I hope we get more details about this. If the man was distraught and could not competently serve, that is one thing. Although one would think a 28 year professional would be able to handle such adversity. If he simply had political issues and did not want to respond, that is inexcusable.
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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    This doesn't make sense. While Giffords was a known liberal, she wasn't the only victim, there were 19 people shot that day (or more). Nobody knew the political affiliations of any of those people, so how could politics play a part in this guys decision to not show up? I don't get it.

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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Crosscheck View Post
    It pretty much speaks for the current political division in our country.


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    To the Lame-Ass firefighter.


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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    If you read the article it shows something different. I think the guy was not emotionally prepared to go on the call, therefore, he was right to retire. I hope there is no action against him. His record was good in the past.
    i don't think the man explained himself at all........glad he's retired. he's dangerous.

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    Re: City memos show AZ firefighter refused response to Giffords shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Very very strange story. I hope we get more details about this. If the man was distraught and could not competently serve, that is one thing. Although one would think a 28 year professional would be able to handle such adversity. If he simply had political issues and did not want to respond, that is inexcusable.


    a 28 year professional could also be suffering from PTSD and could possibly have hit a breaking point.



    Ekstrum, 56, declined again Friday to discuss the incident. Instead, he referred to a statement he gave fire department officials earlier this week explaining his actions.

    Ekstrum said in the statement he was aware of the shooting from TV reports and became "distraught over the magnitude of how this would affect our country."

    "Countless thoughts were streaming through my brain. ... I became distracted to the point of not being able to perform my routine station duties to such an extent that I seriously doubted my ability to focus on an emergency call," his statement said. "I decided for the best interest of my crew, and more importantly the citizens, to go home on sick leave and return to emergency work the next shift when I would be more focused."

    Ekstrum added he "failed to communicate my situation to my supervisor correctly at the time of the incident." He said he realized the next morning that he shouldn't have refused the call. He then decided to retire.


    "Everybody has their own threshold for different things," Gulotta said. "He had a physical response that kept him from performing his duties. This is an isolated individual. This is not what the Tucson Fire Department is about."

    Ariz firefighter too distraught to respond to call *| ajc.com

    this sounds less and less political to me.
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