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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Read the language that you claim is the key to being paid extra

    1. A teacher who is employed after school is recessed for the summer and before school
    commences in the fall,


    If the 194 days are not yet gotten in, THERE WILL BE NO RECESS FOR HE SUMMER. The School year is merely rearranged, the days gotten in to the 194 required number and only then is school recessed and the language you are citing for exra pay then kicks in.



    Read it again, one defines a situation where school is recessed and another where things required are not met, and then they must go into the summer, compensated at a pro-rated rate.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Even if they were sick or claimed to be sick, it wouldn't be "the very nature of the work" that led to it requiring extra time to complete. That "which by its very nature" means that the work itself has to be the reason for the extension.


    Do you think these teachers expect to work into the summer without being paid more? The language is ambiguous...
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Do you think these teachers expect to work into the summer without being paid more? The language is ambiguous...
    I think that teachers who take certain actions such as striking or "sick-outs" expect there to be some extra work to take care of upon return.

    Of course, what they expect and what is the reality of that wording may be totally different. That wording means that they won't get extra pay if the reason the work extends into summer is not intrinsically caused by the nature of the work itself.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I think that teachers who take certain actions such as striking or "sick-outs" expect there to be some extra work to take care of upon return.


    this is the paragraph in question"


    2. Any work performed in the summer which is an extension of work performed during the school
    year, and which by its very nature, cannot be completed by the end of the school year will be
    compensated as outlined in paragraph 1 above.

    So can a teacher who did not lie and participate in a sick out, be compensated under this point?
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    this is the paragraph in question"





    So can a teacher who did not lie and participate in a sick out, be compensated under this point?
    It depends on the nature of the work they have to take care of come summer.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    It depends on the nature of the work they have to take care of come summer.


    Like up to and including teaching kids for the amount of time required for federal funding?
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    MADISON - Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald says his chamber of the Wisconsin legislature will convene to pass non-spending bills and act on appointments on Tuesday even if minority Democrats remain out of state in an effort to block a vote on Governor Scott Walker's budget repair bill.

    Could one of those bills be the union aspect of the budget bill, in a separate vote on Tuesday?

    Democratic state Sen. Jon Erpenbach told The Associated Press on Monday that Republicans could attempt to attach the part of the proposal taking away collective bargaining rights to an unrelated bill and pass it Tuesday.

    "I told them, 'Listen, Senator Miller, we're marching forward with our business. I am setting the calendar for tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. I would expect that the Democrats will be there, but we will be taking up a resolution. We will be passing a piece of legislation, and we will also be confirming one of the governor's nominees to their cabinet position," said Republican State Senate President Scott Fitzgerald on Newsradio 620 WTMJ's "Wisconsin's Morning News."

    Capitol Chaos: Could Union Bill Be Passed Separately Tuesday? | Today's TMJ4 - Milwaukee, Wisconsin News, Weather, Sports, WTMJ | Local News

    Absolutely!!!! Hear, hear! If the demo thugs think that these tactics can stop the peoples business, then they should be left out of it.


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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    If its NOT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE and he has not stated his position...by what stroke of logic and lack of knowledge did you address the topic? Geeze......perhaps a little more CRITICAL THINKING? Like, where do you get the idea that its a basic right for a public service employee to have access to collective bargaining, when they work for THE GOVERNMENT not a private sector employee...just how do you negotiate with an act of Legislation? No right to organize is being taken away, if it is demonstrate the language in this law that describes as much. What the law clearly states is the fact that now Wisconsin Public Employees will have the fundamental right of CHOICE and not be forced in a most fascist manner to PAY TO PLAY.
    I have no position on public unions. I'm simply noting that rights they were granted in the 70s are being severely curtailed by Walker's bill. He doesn't seem to be going about it very honestly.

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Like up to and including teaching kids for the amount of time required for federal funding?
    No. That wouldn't qualify as being work, "which by it's very nature, cannot be completed by the end of the school year". The very nature of that work is that it can be completed by the end of the school year. In fact, it defines the length of time for a school year. If an outside factor prevents it form being accomplished within the calender school year, it won't be compensated.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I have no position on public unions. I'm simply noting that rights they were granted in the 70s are being severely curtailed by Walker's bill. He doesn't seem to be going about it very honestly.
    And whom "granted" these supposed "rights"?

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