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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    I think it goes from largest to smallest, top to bottom (thanks for the chart btw)


    So why is everything about investors?
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by wtfkenneth View Post
    I think it goes from largest to smallest, top to bottom (thanks for the chart btw)


    So why is everything about investors?
    Investors are the source of capital that get's small business going and helps large business expand.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Investors are the source of capital that get's small business going and helps large business expand.
    And those who aren't in a position to invest don't matter?

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by wtfkenneth View Post
    And those who aren't in a position to invest don't matter?
    If they want to be in a position to invest, they can get out there and put themselves in a position to invest. Hard work is a good start.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by wtfkenneth View Post
    And those who aren't in a position to invest don't matter?
    Where do you get from my posts that they do not matter?

    See, you're flaw is that you think only through Gov't action can they be helped. I think that's doing it bassackwards as it were. Investors promote economic growth, social welfare and program recipients do not. Lack of economic growth hurts the lower end more then the higher end.

    I want to help people just as much YOU do, however, I don't think that giving them other peoples money is the way to do it.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Where do you get from my posts that they do not matter?

    See, you're flaw is that you think only through Gov't action can they be helped. I think that's doing it bassackwards as it were. Investors promote economic growth, social welfare and program recipients do not. Lack of economic growth hurts the lower end more then the higher end.

    I want to help people just as much YOU do, however, I don't think that giving them other peoples money is the way to do it.
    I meant to the economy. They don't matter to the economy?

    I have also experienced first hand that it is not easy to get a job. It's not that I'm not trying, it's that others aren't hiring. So it doesn't really matter how much hard work I put in. It doesn't help that I'm young and don't have a degree yet.

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by wtfkenneth View Post
    I meant to the economy. They don't matter to the economy?

    I have also experienced first hand that it is not easy to get a job. It's not that I'm not trying, it's that others aren't hiring. So it doesn't really matter how much hard work I put in. It doesn't help that I'm young and don't have a degree yet.
    Unemployment is at 17%, of course it's going to be hard to land a job.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by wtfkenneth View Post
    I meant to the economy. They don't matter to the economy?

    I have also experienced first hand that it is not easy to get a job. It's not that I'm not trying, it's that others aren't hiring. So it doesn't really matter how much hard work I put in. It doesn't help that I'm young and don't have a degree yet.
    If you are a net drain on the economy you are a detriment.

    Of course it's not easy, life isn't easy. You have to have a skill others want to pay you for. Experience, hard work, education all bring skills you can market to the table.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by wtfkenneth View Post
    I meant to the economy. They don't matter to the economy?

    I have also experienced first hand that it is not easy to get a job. It's not that I'm not trying, it's that others aren't hiring. So it doesn't really matter how much hard work I put in. It doesn't help that I'm young and don't have a degree yet.
    Everyone matters in the economy, however you must understand how the market works. First of all, I hate the term "trickle down economics." It implies that the rich will spend more money on goods and somehow this will create jobs for the US. In reality, there just aren't enough rich people for this to make sense.

    What it boils down to is that in any market, there must be both producers and consumers. Generally, the only way to become wealthy in a market economy is to produce something that consumers are willing to pay for.

    This is where the marginal tax rate comes in. If the tax rate is 90%, there is very little incentive for the rich to produce, as the profit of margin is so high, as is the risk. However, the incentive is much greater to produce if you are paying say 20% in taxes. All fairly common sense.

    If the marginal tax rate becomes to high in an investors opinion, then ultimately progress is halted.

    I actually support supply side economics and our country has far and away seen our biggest expansions after tax cuts, most notably Harding-Coolidge in the 20's, Kennedy-Johnson in the 60's and Reagan in the 80's.

    The problem is that since the 80's, both parties have been out of control in spending and both need to reign it in. Be it entitlements for the democrats or military spending for the republicans, it needs to stop.

    I only fear that we've gone too far, need to halt progress, pay for our sins, be it through across the board budget cuts or taxation, and learn from our lessons.

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