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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Perhaps, it could also be they didn't want the PSU to go bonkers too. One problem at a time.
    That is a possibility, but given the evidence that the PSU supported the governor in his election and remain the only untouched public sector union seems just too fishy. Walkers dishonesty in the situation is what truly bothers me.

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    Really? Do you actually know the facts? The unions are only being asked to contribute 12% to their Medical insurance coverage...the private sector contributes 20% or better. The unions are being asked to pay 5% into their own pension plans, the private sector averages well over 7%. There is no demand for a decrease in pay, they still will be averaging more than 30% more than their private sector counter parts. But this legislation will stop the laying off of over 5 thousand public employees if the Union would concede these to small demands.

    But....it was just weeks ago, the left was preaching to the right about being CIVIL as leadership talk does effect the population, just today we see signs calling the governor of Wis. Hitler, and a Terrorist, the end of democracy (Which I kind of agree with if the union constitutions are allowed to be superior to the oath these PUBLIC SERVANT take to defend our national CONSTITUTION) while the children are being denied an education...yet the left continually TALKS about the value of education. Where is the Prez...chastising all the hate filled angry speech, as he did only weeks ago...nope, He comes out and says this is an attack on UNIONS. When in reality the BUDGET must be saved or there will be 5000 fewer UNION MEMBERS with jobs shortly. The hypocrisy is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
    If you think I'm clueless on this issue, you clearly have jumped to the last page and read none of my previous posts. I'm going to take this one line at a time.

    You make your comparisons in statistics between the private and public sector. You obviously didn't read my post referring to the WI QEO law enacted in 93. As posted earlier public workers actually HAVE faced pay cuts, in order to compensate for the rising cost in health care. It is a burden that EVERYONE in the working class must face.

    I agree that the democrats actions are questionable at best and have if you'd read, noticed that I strayed away from that, and focused on the bill instead. I made a seperate post referring to these Hitler sign holders as the nut jobs they are.

    You next say that this is about BUDGET when in reality if Walker were near as concerned with the budget as he appears to be, the public safety unions would be on the chopping block. THIS is where the thick hypocrisy lays.

    It appears to me as if I'm the one who did any sort of research and you are the one using talking points.

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Their job isn't to prevent legislation they don't agree with. It is to provide a voice for their constituents using define dparameters. By refusing to give that voice in the defined parameters, they are shirking their duty.

    Party politics has forgotten this and they instead seek to represent party more than people.
    Bingo! We have a winner.

    There are 385,000 union employees in Wisconsin out of a population of 6,000,000 people. Even if one factors each union employee as the breadwinner of a family of 4 (which is much too high, but it still makes the point), that's 1,500,000 union supported families. So exactly who is representing the other 4,500,000 million people in the state? Certain not these runaway democrats. This is partisian vote-pandering, nothing more.

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    I'm not sure there are any union members in my state. They were all wiped out a long time ago.

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Well looks like the COKE brothers have dug into their deep pockets yet again and will provide buses for the teabaggers , for tomorrows rally. With any luck some of the lucky baggers might score an autograph from the famous pimp himself “Andrew Breitbart” of Breitbart.com.

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    This has nothing to do for "the rich". Dude spending is too high and these union members dont deserve a pension. Not in this economy. They need to do what every other human should do..... prepare for after retirement. This isnt a corporate greed issue. This is a tax payer issue. Its not like these workers are suffering because of their pay. Hell techers dont even work the whole year and they get paid more than ME! Screw THAT!
    Obama joins Wisconsin's budget battle, opposing Republican anti-union bill

    Obama is getting into the act to help the unions.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

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    Obama joins Wisconsin's budget battle, opposing Republican anti-union bill

    Obama is getting into the act to help the unions.

    So is Jesse.

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Bingo! We have a winner.

    There are 385,000 union employees in Wisconsin out of a population of 6,000,000 people. Even if one factors each union employee as the breadwinner of a family of 4 (which is much too high, but it still makes the point), that's 1,500,000 union supported families. So exactly who is representing the other 4,500,000 million people in the state? Certain not these runaway democrats. This is partisian vote-pandering, nothing more.
    just listening to leonard cohen's "the partisan"....guess they don't play that on fake news

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    This has nothing to do for "the rich". Dude spending is too high and these union members dont deserve a pension. Not in this economy. They need to do what every other human should do..... prepare for after retirement. This isnt a corporate greed issue. This is a tax payer issue. Its not like these workers are suffering because of their pay. Hell techers dont even work the whole year and they get paid more than ME! Screw THAT!
    yeah, it does...if the privlidged simply pay a fair share then the the problem simply goes away

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