“I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.
They get paid by the taxpayer you say. Would you prefer the rate get dropped to minimum wage? That would really help our educational system, which is already flourishing SO much compared to much of the modern world. Should education of our children NOT be a top priority?
You say the states are broke. Again, we agree. But this is a blatant attempt to crush unions, not balance the budget. Unions are willing to pay this increase, just don't take away collective bargaining.
You say everyones got to give some to get some. How then do you explain that public safety unions (police, state troopers, and fire department) are exempt? They certainly are not "giving some"
All in all you seem fairly clueless about the whole situation when there is a plethora of reliable information available moments away.
Hyperbole is seldom truthful.
Add to it that he has exempted unions such as the police, firefighters, and state troopers, all supporters of his during the past election, and it's looking more and more like political retribution than trying to save the state money. If things were as dire as the governor is claiming, then no union should be excluded during this time. Surely you can agree with that.
As a New Jersey resident I'm sure you can sure answer this. When Governor Christie was battling the problem of state pensions did he move to roll back a union's collective bargaining rights? I have followed what he is doing, very impressive indeed, but to my knowledge he did not take it that far. Please let me know if I'm wrong.
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Just a small FYI for all. The unions don't have as much power as some would have you believe.
What is the QEO? | Collective Bargaining | Wisconsin Education Association Council
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"The Wisconsin Legislature enacted the Qualified Economic Offer (QEO) law in 1993. The QEO law - and the revenue controls that restrict the amount of money school districts can raise - were enacted in order to limit school spending. Those measures were combined with a commitment that the state would provide two-thirds of the costs of schools on a statewide average (this figure varies by community).
Under the QEO, school boards have the option of unilaterally limiting pay and benefits for K-12 teachers so long as the combined increase is 3.8%. The law allows school districts to avoid true collective bargaining regarding compensation and important school quality issues.
As rising health insurance costs have eaten up most of the 3.8% total compensation target, teacher salaries in Wisconsin have stagnated and even declined. As a result, Wisconsin teacher salaries fell 6.8% from 1997-98 to 2007-08, when adjusted for inflation. For 2007-08, Wisconsin's teacher salaries ranked 21th in the nation at $49,051, down from 20th the year before, and below the national average of $52,308."
As you see, this law actually limits the power of unions. I think we can all agree a balance of power is a good thing.