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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Trying to circumvent the democratic process by refusing to perform the job one is paid for and was voted in to perform is immoral in many people's way of thinking.
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    Here here, it doesn't matter they don't have enough votes they need. It's there job to vote on the bill.
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    They could do their jobs - and make that happen - by voting.

    A politician's job is to oppose the other party and to do the will of the people that elected them. Last I checked democrats support unions. To say they are not doing their job is ludicrous, unless they ran on a anti-union platform. This is nothing more than a tool of a minority party much like filibusters are.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    A politician's job is to oppose the other party and to do the will of the people that elected them. Last I checked democrats support unions. To say they are not doing their job is ludicrous, unless they ran on a anti-union platform. This is nothing more than a tool of a minority party much like filibusters are.
    There job is to REPRESENT their constituents views in legislation. By not voting, they are not representing those views in legislation.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    There job is to REPRESENT their constituents views in legislation. By not voting, they are not representing those views in legislation.
    They are doing their job by using a tactic available to them to prevent a piece of legislation that they and their voters oppose. I seriously doubt either party would create a law that makes a politician forfeit their vote if they refuse to show up to vote.
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    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Union thugs, in bed with democrat politicians, once again, think they shouldn't have to make the sacrifices that everyone else has to.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Trying to circumvent the democratic process by refusing to perform the job one is paid for and was voted in to perform is immoral in many people's way of thinking.


    In this case it's pandering to the teachers union.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    They are doing their job by using a tactic available to them to prevent a piece of legislation that they and their voters oppose. I seriously doubt either party would create a law that makes a politician forfeit their vote if they refuse to show up to vote.
    Their job isn't to prevent legislation they don't agree with. It is to provide a voice for their constituents using define dparameters. By refusing to give that voice in the defined parameters, they are shirking their duty.

    Party politics has forgotten this and they instead seek to represent party more than people.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Hmm . sounds to me much like is going on at the federal level ..
    I agree, and I think its sickening on that level as well, it just bothers me more here for multiple reasons. (I'm from Wisconsin and I have family in education)

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    Union thugs, in bed with democrat politicians, once again, think they shouldn't have to make the sacrifices that everyone else has to.
    Before you get too far with your rhetoric there Rev, what do you feel about the "Union thugs" leading the public safety unions who are retaining ALL collective bargaining rights. Everyone on this post thus far who has supported Walker seems to just skip over this little fact. I know you are good about responding so I will ask you specifically (even though I hardly ever agree! hah)

    I know this is common in both state and federal government, but it makes it no less crooked and I can honestly it makes me just as unhappy when the democrats do the same thing (and they do)

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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    Before you get too far with your rhetoric there Rev, what do you feel about the "Union thugs" leading the public safety unions who are retaining ALL collective bargaining rights. Everyone on this post thus far who has supported Walker seems to just skip over this little fact. I know you are good about responding so I will ask you specifically (even though I hardly ever agree! hah)

    I know this is common in both state and federal government, but it makes it no less crooked and I can honestly it makes me just as unhappy when the democrats do the same thing (and they do)



    public safety such as cops?

    I think they are a bain of existence as well. For example every little town here in jersey has it's own police force with it's own 100k chief, Guess who leads the charge agains regionalization that would save this state MILLIONS?


    What the teachers union in that state is deplorable as well as what the democrats are doing... Imagine if you or I simply did not just not show up to work.
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    Re: Wisconsin Governor to Missing Democrats: Do Your Job

    Quote Originally Posted by ReverendHellh0und View Post
    public safety such as cops?

    I think they are a bain of existence as well. For example every little town here in jersey has it's own police force with it's own 100k chief, Guess who leads the charge agains regionalization that would save this state MILLIONS?


    What the teachers union in that state is deplorable as well as what the democrats are doing... Imagine if you or I simply did not just not show up to work.
    Thank you rev, for your answer. I don't know if you've read the article, or my past posts, but my main concern with this bill is that it simply doesn't seem to address the budget issues so much as a personal vendetta for the unions. In this situation, the public safety unions (in this case, referring to police, state troopers, and fire fighters) were strong supporters of Walker in the governmental elections, and now that they are allowed to retain collective bargaining, the true intention of this bill rings pretty clear.

    I can honestly say that I would still not support the action even if ALL unions were involved, but at least then I would feel much less outraged about the blatant favoritism and the lack of true concern to balance the budget (if this were actually a way to do it)

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