Guy Incognito
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Fighting fire with fire only gives you a bigger fire.
Not always. Fire fighters literally fight fire with fire all the time, especially to control wildfires. Ever heard of a controlled burn?
No. I want an entirely free transportation industry.
Well, you can wish in one hand and you know what you can do in the other.
Mind elaborating on where you think the government should grow or at least not shrink?
I think it should primarily shrink. We should shrink the corporate welfare-state.
So the 1800s, when we had a relatively free market, that wasn't the result of people sticking to their principles and advocating small government anywhere and everywhere? It wasn't when we started making exceptions that we began our precipitous decline to economic fascism?
There is no such thing as a relatively free market. A market is either free or it isn't. It does not take a numerically large number of government regulations to radically alter the course of a market. Only a few minor instance of government intervention, in the wrong places, can have unjust consequence on a tremendous scale. Just witness all the free enterprise that is being held back by special interests as we speak.
Obviously, you don't seem to read my posts much. I'm saying that this corporatist economy came about because we had a free market system and made a ton of exceptions for the common good. It was this compromise that brought us to the system we have today.
Easy, tiger. I'm familiar with your posts, I think you have a good head on your shoulders. But I think you have also swallowed a little bit too much of the Republicans-coopting-Libertarians kool-aid.
Libertopia ain't happening. Compromise is all we've got. So instead of holding our breath for a pure free market, and instead of buying into Republican talking points that promise a free market that isn't really free at all, why not observe the situation objectively, and apply the noncoercion maxim to all the factors.
Murray Rothbard (yeah, I read him too) had a quote in For a New Liberty about how Libertarians to reach their goal should always talk about their ultimate goals, and always support goals toward that end and never in the opposite direction.
I agree. One of those ultimate goals needs to be keeping corporations in check with an eye toward breaking their corrupt hold on government.