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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Different situation all together.
    How? It's better for the environment, cheaper to run, and causes people to venture out more because of the fact that it is cheaper and allows them to travel further and more often.

    Where is the downside? Charlotte is going to build a highspeed train to Washington D.C. and I, along with others here in Charlotte, are extremely excited about the prospect of being able to get from here to D.C. or NYC in a reasonable amount of time for a reasonable price.

    I might even drive my electric car to the train station when it is built in a few years. How awesome would that be?

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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    Some of you seem to be conflating "profitable" with "good policy." Is the interstate highway system profitable for the government? No...it costs billions to build and maintain, and generates almost no revenue aside from a few toll roads. Yet very few people would say that the interstate highway system was a bad investment.

    I think high-speed rail would be much the same. Will it bring in more government revenue than it costs? No, of course not. But that's not the goal. The goal is to provide a benefit to society.
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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    By all means... lets waste billions so you can see the ****ing Cubs
    It wouldn't be wasteful, it would provide jobs, and improve American infrastructure. It's a win/win in my book.
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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Different situation all together.
    Explain how it is a different situation? Are American's too "good" to travel by train? You do know the train built the west right? How about when petrol is 5+ bucks a gallon? Will the tune change then? Or are you gonna use the debunked excuse of "America is a big place" bull crap?
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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    I'm all for shoring up infrastructure and making sure our transportation, energy, and communications systems stay relevant and competitive. However, in many cases some things are just not necessary. If Floridians think that they don't need/want high-speed rail, then they probably don't.

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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    By all means... lets waste billions so you can see the ****ing Cubs
    Let's see. Billions on a public work project which would create jobs and provide a dramatic and useful boost to overall transportation in the United States. Or 100's of billions spent on bailing out CEOs and banks which caused the mess in the first place, while leaving the middle and lower class to fend for themselves as the government gives golden parachutes to the companies and CEOs at fault. Hmmm...let's see. Which would I prefer we spend our money on. I don't know, this one is tough. On one hand, those CEOs and banks certainly need their money to save them from the reckless behavior and decisions which broke the economy. But on the other hand, people could have jobs till the economy recovered and we'd provide a huge public service to people, drastically cutting travel time by rail and offering true competition against the airlines. Hmmm....man, this is tough......where to spend all that money?
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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    The GOP loves spending money on the industrial military complex and fighting stupid wars, but when it comes to betterment of our people (unless you are very rich) they are AWOL. Let's dig up Dwight David Eisenhower and make him president again.


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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    A true, national high speed rail would be well worth the investment of money in addition to providing many jobs to see people through the economic turndown. I mean, that's if you care about the average American instead of sending the billions upon billions of dollars to bailouts of the banks and CEOs who made the mess.
    That's great...find some private investors and build it.
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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    I think it says a lot about how cowardly the GOP have become. Can you imagine how different the world would be if Eisenhower's interstate highway system had been seen as "too great a risk".
    Do you even know why the interstate system was built?
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    Re: Florida scraps high-speed rail plan pushed by Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's great...find some private investors and build it.
    They can't. The land is owned by the government and the scale of the project is such that it is best handled through government. Particularly as a work program when the economy has collapsed.
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