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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    If you had told me 40 years ago that the Conservatives would be standing up for women's rights while those calling themselves liberal were doing nothing but making excuses for it, I would have thought you were crazy.

    My, how times have changed.

    Why women's right? Women aren't the only one capable of being hurt in that situation. If that was a man being assaulted, you would not be outraged? An Egyptian journalist was killed.

    Unless the conservatives support a woman's right to her body, your statement above just doesn't hold water.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    What happened to this woman is despicable. However it's not shocking or even remotely surprising. Mob mentality regardless of ideology tends to lead a few people to commit horrible acts. Christian Rwandan Hutus raped, maimed and murdered thousands of women. Marxists militias in South America have been known to rape countless native villages. US soldiers raped many Vietnamese women when they were fighting for 'their freedom'. Read the Bible and you'll find many examples of massacres being carried out even by supposedly peaceful servants of God. It's almost 'human' to take violence and cruelty to a certain level when one finds themselves in control. I don't expect some of the Egyptian protesters to be above this.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    If you had told me 40 years ago that the Conservatives would be standing up for women's rights while those calling themselves liberal were doing nothing but making excuses for it, I would have thought you were crazy.

    My, how times have changed.
    You want to know the truth, G? I just keep thinking what that must have been like for her (understanding that I can never really fully know). I also think a group of men victimizing a woman like that shows them to be nothing more than scum sucking cowards and, it frustrates me some that, even before we get to express concern for her or show outrage, the first consideration should be how this impacts the worlds view of the demonstrators. Y'know, anything said about the protesters that may or may not be fair, is nothing compared to what this lady suffered.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    Really? Show me where I made an excuse for her getting raped? Show me where I said it was ok? Before you go having an orgasm with yourself about liberals changing or some other Glenn Beck-like non sequitor nonsense, please, do yourself a favor and read.

    All I said, again, was the I think the previous poster put up her picture to say, "Look how pretty she is and look where she was". There is no statement about morality there, approval, or even disapproval. They are just observations.

    To be honest, I am surprised no journalists were murdered. When I heard about the sexual assault, I was not surprised. I am sorry if you were and if that offends you, but I was not surprised. Men can be... I am not sure I can think of the proper word to describe it. Lets just say men can go pretty low when given the opportunity.
    Don't you see, though, by making a comment like "look how pretty she is" you're suggesting that, "well men are just men and they can't be responsible for what they do because look at what a looker she is after all", - like this whole thing should just be overlooked and I just think that's bull**** myself.

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    Why women's right? Women aren't the only one capable of being hurt in that situation. If that was a man being assaulted, you would not be outraged?
    I see sexual assault as being a worse thing to have to endure than a regular assault. I guess it's just the chauvinist side of me that tells me it's worse when a man assaults a woman than when he assaults another man.

    Unless the conservatives support a woman's right to her body, your statement above just doesn't hold water.
    What a silly statement.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    What happened to this woman is despicable. However it's not shocking or even remotely surprising. Mob mentality regardless of ideology tends to lead a few people to commit horrible acts. Christian Rwandan Hutus raped, maimed and murdered thousands of women. Marxists militias in South America have been known to rape countless native villages. US soldiers raped many Vietnamese women when they were fighting for 'their freedom'. Read the Bible and you'll find many examples of massacres being carried out even by supposedly peaceful servants of God. It's almost 'human' to take violence and cruelty to a certain level when one finds themselves in control. I don't expect some of the Egyptian protesters to be above this.
    More weak, bs, excuses.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    **** happens and we move on.
    I'm sorry, but this nonchalant response made me see red. "**** happens?" If you had been beaten and gang raped for more than 30 minutes, injured so severely that you were still in the hospital nearly a week later, would you shrug it off as "**** happens??" If your mother or your sister or your wife had been the victim of a beating and gang rape, would you visit them in the hospital offering a shrug and, "**** happens??" Or are you under the mistaken impression that she was an American, and therefore "**** happens" to American female reporter? Well, she wasn't American and she wasn't an Israeli... she was South African. Is it still okay that "**** happens?"

    That is the coldest, the most infuriating thing I've ever heard. I'm going to have to pour myself a drink to read the rest of this thread, and not get myself suspended.

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    More weak, bs, excuses.
    Excuses for what? Learn to read posts instead of pretending you can because you're able to put in bold sections you think you understand? Thanks.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    I'm shaking with anger at reading the rest of this thread. Some are ignoring what this woman went through to push through a political agenda... "see, all muslims are violent and can't be trusted." Excuse me, but it was muslims, women and men, who rescued her. Some are basically blaming her for being there, because hell, everyone knows that a hot woman is going to get herself raped if she tries to do the same job her male counterparts do... "see, this is why women just aren't suited to go where men go." Some are saying, "hey, a lot of journalists got beat up, so she should have expected it" without noting that the area inside Liberation Square AFTER the two days of thugs-gone-wild was about the ONLY place safe for journalists, and the only place journalists... male or female... were reporting from.

    This woman was targeted by a large group of criminals... not muslims, dammit, opportunistic criminals, a group that systematically pushed between her and her tv crew and her security personnel. They knew exactly what they were doing, they planned to kidnap her, and they did it. If not for the bravery of muslim women who eventually saw what was happening and rushed to her rescue, alerting the Egyptian soldiers who ran to assist, she might have been killed.

    But hey, it's a great way to use a woman's horrific experience, a woman who is STILL hospitalized with severe injuries, to push a political, xenophobic, or misogynist agenda without anyone actually giving a fat flying fig about the courageous woman who, in the course of doing her job, was brutalized.

    God, some of the posts on this thread have sickened me.

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    But see DiAnna they were Muslims... so you can't say they weren't Muslims. But I'm not trying to push a political agenda just stating truth.

    Anyways, that doesn't change the fact that they were opportunistic criminals. And Yes I do agree that they are. And they should be punished for their crimes. And stop saying "**** just happens" yeah **** does happens. And you pay for the **** you do. But is there anyway we could possibly round these people up? Maybe... but not likely. I would love to though.

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Excuses for what? Learn to read posts instead of pretending you can because you're able to put in bold sections you think you understand? Thanks.
    To say that this is just what humans do is making excuses for this, like it's no big deal. Hey, I have an idea. Pretend this happened at GOP rally, then maybe you'll find the outrage you seem to be missing now.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    To say that this is just what humans do is making excuses for this, like it's no big deal.
    That's not what I said. Which I explicitly stated you should learn to read. Something being 'human' does not mean it's no big deal. Which is why I clearly suggested this was a horrible act IN THE THIRD SENTENCE OF MY POST. Maybe instead of being a self righteous little interpreter of sentences you should spend more time actually reading entire posts in context?

    Hey, I have an idea. Pretend this happened at GOP rally, then maybe you'll find the outrage you seem to be missing now.
    Pretend you knew how to read and quit coming up with ideas. They're not your forte and you're just not that good at interpreting those of others.
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