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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

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    This seriously broke my heart. We were watching live as demonstrators broke between the pretty blonde correspondent and the rest of her production team. I told my husband I didn't like the way the men were looking at her. Now I see this:

    CBS News' Logan Recovering after 'Brutal' Attack | CNSnews.com



    Absolutely horrible. It breaks my heat that this courageous woman was abused by the very people she was supporting, and trying to interview. I almost feel complicit in this vile attack, because I was so thrilled that the Egyptian people had managed to garner their freedom. I was watching when that same crowd pushed the camera/production team away from from the female correspondent.

    I am horrified and stunned. I had been rooting for the Egyptian protesters to push Mubarak's corrupt regime out of office... and yet they do this to an innocent journalist trying to project their demands to the world???

    I'm really, really furious, and sick at the depravity.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You seem to be implying that somehow the jubilation in general in Egypt is a violent sort because it wasn't just this one isolated incident. You didn't clearly come out and say it, but instead used implications through the lack of specificity and the things you said, similar to how people will use a few isolated statements or incidents to imply that the Tea Party is a racist movement or a GOP puppet or other such things without directly saying it. Much like I think such implications and slight of hand of suggesting something without directly saying it is wrong when its applied to movements supported by conservatives in the US, I think such implications when applied to movements external to the US that some conservatives don't support are just as wrong. I'm highlighting your tactic in regards to the topic by comparing it with a similar tactic done to a similar thing, a political movement, and how it is wrong in both cases.

    The assult on someone is not an isolated incident. Indeed, I agreed with that notion early on in this post. However, by and large the jubilation in Egypt is being expressed in ways that aren't violent and those few cases are the exceptions, not the rule.

    X, suggesting there are some in the crowd that aren't peaceful isn't something to suggest is bad to "dare" to do. In my first post in this thread I did just that. However, for every rapisted and assulter in the crowd there seems to be dozens upon dozens of peaceful to relatively peaceful protestors. Singling out the few bad apples and implying them as if they're some kind of wide spread norm is not accurate, no more than when such happens with political movements within this country.
    There were what? 140 Journalist attacked in Egypt during these riots? This gal got a very brutal treatment this is true, however I think after a dozen attacks on the media we can stop trying to pretend that it's a minority within the crowds and start accepting maybe there is something not right going here. Or would that be too racist/anti-islamic or what not for you to admit?
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Then let me ask you point blank.

    Do you believe that a majority, or even lets say a strong majority 3/4ths of the crowd, are a "danger" to journalists or do you think the journalists that have been in danger were put there by protesters whose mindset is of a relative minority.
    From what I understand the crowd of reportedly, hundreds of thousands, and we have reported 3 or 4 incidents in the 3 weeks where journalists are concerned. That's not a good thing when journalists are targeted, but I do not believe the majority or 3/4 or 2/3 or 1/3 or 1/4 were out to hurt journalists. What did happen was a few people or a small group who had other not too civil ideas, or who got caught up in the moment and thought they could get away with something - like groping and assaulting a blond journalist. Unlike some, I do not attribute these types of actions to hundreds of thousands of people - who are out to kill foreigners. Is that what you were driving at? And since when in the last 2 years I've been on this board have I done that which requires your "inference"?
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    To me Ockham, your post was vague and gave a clear implication of something larger then you were apparently stating. It seems I read your post's intent in error, and I freely admit that. It was the fact that you've not been one to act that way which gave me pause and the reason I questioned it, as it seemed odd for you.

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Then let me ask you point blank.

    Do you believe that a majority, or even lets say a strong majority 3/4ths of the crowd, are a "danger" to journalists or do you think the journalists that have been in danger were put there by protesters whose mindset is of a relative minority.
    In the case of female journalists, I believe that Egyptian men are a danger to them, simply based on the laws of the country that place the blame for rape upon the victim.

    IMO, the U.S. government should be speaking out strongly against this and demanding that justice be served.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    There were what? 140 Journalist attacked in Egypt during these riots?
    Link? I've not seen this. I've heard various reports of it. In some cases it seemed to be coming from pro-Mubark individuals who were stirring up trouble. In other cases it seemed less of an attack and more of the issues of trying to forecfully interject yourself in the middle of a massive protest and expect to not get jostled. How many journalists are over there reporting between the multitude of countries and undoubtably dozens upon dozens of actual news agencies and internet blogs. Spitting out a number as if it means something is irrelevant without surrounding facts.

    Or would that be too racist/anti-islamic or what not for you to admit?
    Shall we be calling you the Reverend Mr. Vicchio now in honor of your race-card pulling brothers? Where did I meantion racism or anti-islamisc accusations even once? I don't think its racist or anti-islamist to suggest that the protestors by and large are violent. I just think its ignorance in trying to take a few extremes or minority and acting like its the majority, akin to what people do with the tea party in this country.

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Link? I've not seen this. I've heard various reports of it. In some cases it seemed to be coming from pro-Mubark individuals who were stirring up trouble. In other cases it seemed less of an attack and more of the issues of trying to forecfully interject yourself in the middle of a massive protest and expect to not get jostled. How many journalists are over there reporting between the multitude of countries and undoubtably dozens upon dozens of actual news agencies and internet blogs. Spitting out a number as if it means something is irrelevant without surrounding facts.
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    ABC News international correspondent Christiane Amanpour said that on Wednesday her car was surrounded by men banging on the sides and windows, and a rock was thrown through the windshield, shattering glass on the occupants. They escaped without injury/ (wires)

    Another CNN reporter, Hala Gorani, said she was shoved against a fence when demonstrators rode in on horses and camels, and feared she was going to get trampled/ (wires)
    A group of angry Egyptian men carjacked an ABC News crew and threatened to behead them on Thursday in the latest and most menacing attack on foreign reporters trying to cover the anti-government uprising. Producer Brian Hartman, cameraman Akram Abi-hanna and two other ABC News employees / (link)

    ABC/Bloomberg’s Lara Setrakian also attacked by protesters

    CNN’s Anderson Cooper said he, a producer and camera operator were set upon by people who began punching them and trying to break their camera. Cooper and team were targeted again on Thursday. “Situation on ground in Egypt very tense,” Cooper tweeted Thursday. “Vehicle I was in attacked. My window smashed. All OK.” / (wires)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Shall we be calling you the Reverend Mr. Vicchio now in honor of your race-card pulling brothers? Where did I meantion racism or anti-islamisc accusations even once? I don't think its racist or anti-islamist to suggest that the protestors by and large are violent. I just think its ignorance in trying to take a few extremes or minority and acting like its the majority, akin to what people do with the tea party in this country.
    What does the Tea Party have to do with this? Did they attack reporters? Was a reporter gang raped by Tea Party members?

    I KNOW you Z, you like to play middle of the road and live in that "moral equivocation" zone I so despise.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    There were what? 140 Journalist attacked in Egypt during these riots? This gal got a very brutal treatment this is true, however I think after a dozen attacks on the media we can stop trying to pretend that it's a minority within the crowds and start accepting maybe there is something not right going here. Or would that be too racist/anti-islamic or what not for you to admit?
    The pro-government crowd was definitely hostile towards the journalists, but we don't know which crowd did this. Or if they were even legitimate protesters instead of a group of people who took advantage of the protests to act out - like those people who looted during Katrina. You don't think the looting had something to do with those people being black, do you?

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by nonpareil View Post
    The pro-government crowd was definitely hostile towards the journalists, but we don't know which crowd did this. Or if they were even legitimate protesters instead of a group of people who took advantage of the protests to act out - like those people who looted during Katrina. You don't think the looting had something to do with those people being black, do you?
    No, because there were plenty of latinos out theri looting, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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