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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What am I doing?
    You dared suggest disapproval that some people in the crowd were something other than peaceful protesters.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

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    How is what you're doing any different than the insinuations made towards Tea Partiers because of bad actions by a handful of various idiots within the movement throughout the country?
    How is what you're doing not a deflection of the topic and a violation of the forum rules?

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You dared suggest disapproval that some people in the crowd were something other than peaceful protesters.
    I dared to post that Logan was not the only journalist who was in danger AND I dared to state that it was not good.
    Last edited by Ockham; 02-16-11 at 05:32 PM. Reason: removed last line - didn't apply to X-Factor
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    How is what you're doing not a deflection of the topic and a violation of the forum rules?
    I believe the topic of this thread is the sexual assault of CBS's 60 minutes reporter Laura Logan, and NOT the tea party.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I dared to post that Logan was not the only journalist who was in danger AND I dared to state that it was not good. Everything else you assumed and inferred.
    Well, not me but I understand what you're saying.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, not me but I understand what you're saying.
    Yep - my bad on that one.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    What am I doing?
    You seem to be implying that somehow the jubilation in general in Egypt is a violent sort because it wasn't just this one isolated incident. You didn't clearly come out and say it, but instead used implications through the lack of specificity and the things you said, similar to how people will use a few isolated statements or incidents to imply that the Tea Party is a racist movement or a GOP puppet or other such things without directly saying it. Much like I think such implications and slight of hand of suggesting something without directly saying it is wrong when its applied to movements supported by conservatives in the US, I think such implications when applied to movements external to the US that some conservatives don't support are just as wrong. I'm highlighting your tactic in regards to the topic by comparing it with a similar tactic done to a similar thing, a political movement, and how it is wrong in both cases.

    The assult on someone is not an isolated incident. Indeed, I agreed with that notion early on in this post. However, by and large the jubilation in Egypt is being expressed in ways that aren't violent and those few cases are the exceptions, not the rule.

    X, suggesting there are some in the crowd that aren't peaceful isn't something to suggest is bad to "dare" to do. In my first post in this thread I did just that. However, for every rapisted and assulter in the crowd there seems to be dozens upon dozens of peaceful to relatively peaceful protestors. Singling out the few bad apples and implying them as if they're some kind of wide spread norm is not accurate, no more than when such happens with political movements within this country.

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Yep - my bad on that one.
    No biggie. As I say, I knew what you meant.
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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I dared to post that Logan was not the only journalist who was in danger AND I dared to state that it was not good.
    Then let me ask you point blank.

    Do you believe that a majority, or even lets say a strong majority 3/4ths of the crowd, are a "danger" to journalists or do you think the journalists that have been in danger were put there by protesters whose mindset is of a relative minority.

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    Re: CBS Reporter Sexually Assaulted in Tahrir Square

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You seem to be implying that somehow the jubilation in general in Egypt is a violent sort because it wasn't just this one isolated incident.
    That's where you made your mistake - you read something into it that wasn't there by "seem to imply". I rarely imply, and I'll just come out and say what it is I mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You didn't clearly come out and say it, but instead used implications through the lack of specificity and the things you said, similar to how people will use a few isolated statements or incidents to imply that the Tea Party is a racist movement or a GOP puppet or other such things without directly saying it. Much like I think such implications and slight of hand of suggesting something without directly saying it is wrong when its applied to movements supported by conservatives in the US, I think such implications when applied to movements external to the US that some conservatives don't support are just as wrong. I'm highlighting your tactic in regards to the topic by comparing it with a similar tactic done to a similar thing, a political movement, and how it is wrong in both cases.

    The assult on someone is not an isolated incident. Indeed, I agreed with that notion early on in this post. However, by and large the jubilation in Egypt is being expressed in ways that aren't violent and those few cases are the exceptions, not the rule.

    X, suggesting there are some in the crowd that aren't peaceful isn't something to suggest is bad to "dare" to do. In my first post in this thread I did just that. However, for every rapisted and assulter in the crowd there seems to be dozens upon dozens of peaceful to relatively peaceful protestors. Singling out the few bad apples and implying them as if they're some kind of wide spread norm is not accurate, no more than when such happens with political movements within this country.
    I think I stated very clearly what I mean. If you want to read something into it that isn't there - that's on you.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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