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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No. I'd push for the law making it legal to kill a gay person to be overturned, but I would not push for a law legally allowing people to kill someone for performing a legal action.
    This law would be about allowing you to use lethal force when the Klan shows up.

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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by OKgrannie View Post
    Restricting abortion in the 2nd trimester can only be done if the purpose is to protect the health of the pregnant woman. States will have a hard time proving that banning abortion in the 2nd trimester is for the purpose of protecting a woman's health.

    Roe v. Wade - Overview

    State laws limiting such access during the second trimester were upheld only when the restrictions were for the purpose of protecting the health of the pregnant woman.
    Exactly right, so unless a woman can prove a need to abort, the State will protect her from herself.

    Edit;
    You deserve a better answer than that.

    South Dakota Women’s Health and Human Life Protection Act (HB 1215)

    I keep telling you people, South Dakota is not like California or New York. There is a history of affirming the rights of the unborn here, so stating that we can use lethal force to protect said unborn is a small step for us.

    Outsiders apply a Hollywood stereotype and get work up in hysterics "oh noes teh reDnecKs r gon kill uz O.o".

    If you're from a liberal state and you're used to doing just whatever you want with your clumps of cells, be advised that your clump of cells may have various legal protections as soon as you step across the state line.

    Also be advised that should you choose to take residency here, you may be legally compelled to own a firearm. Legislation meant to object to ObamaCare is gaining real support as a stand alone law.
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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    This is OKgrannie's idea of "protecting a woman's right".

    Workers fired after abortion scandal
    By Associated Press and Maggie Fazeli Fard

    Some Pennsylvania state employees have been fired and two agencies have overhauled regulations following allegations that a doctor performed illegal late-term abortions that killed a Virginia woman and several viable infants, Pennsylvania Gov. Tom Corbett said Tuesday.

    The announcement came less than one month after Dr. Kermit Gosnell and eight employees were charged with killing seven babies born alive. Gosnell was also charged in the death of Karnamaya Mongar of Woodbridge at his West Philadelphia clinic.

    ~snip~

    Prosecutors said hundreds of babies died in Gosnell’s clinic, and District Attorney Seth Williams called it a “house of horrors.” A grand jury report said Gosnell “murdered these newborns by severing their spinal cords with scissors.”
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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Exactly right, so unless a woman can prove a need to abort, the State will protect her from herself.
    No, this is epic comprehension fail. The state has the power to stop the abortion if the abortion can/will cause bodily harm to the pregnant woman. The woman does not have to prove a need to abort, that is ridiculous.

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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Let's try that again...

    Hmm, interesting, and again....
    Abortion is not murder in this country. Get this fairly simple concept through your head.

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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Abortion is not murder in this country. Get this fairly simple concept through your head.
    If it's not a lawful abortion, yes it is "murder".

    If the facility is not licensed, it's "murder". If the physician does not have a current license, it's "murder". If the woman is in the 3rd trimester and she doesn't have 2 attending physicians concurrence, it's "murder". If the woman performs a less than sterile do-it-yourself abortion, it's "murder". If she hires her boyfriend to step on her stomach, it's "murder".
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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    No, this is epic comprehension fail. The state has the power to stop the abortion if the abortion can/will cause bodily harm to the pregnant woman. The woman does not have to prove a need to abort, that is ridiculous.
    Soooooo...you just chose to ignore my link and the deeper point I was making....fabulous. See you're an example of why people don't really give a **** on this forum. You're just going to ignore everything anyway, so why bother.

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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    If it's not a lawful abortion, yes it is "murder".
    No, in most states an unlawful abortion is only a misdemeanor. Murder is a felony.

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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Soooooo...you just chose to ignore my link and the deeper point I was making....fabulous. See you're an example of why people don't really give a **** on this forum. You're just going to ignore everything anyway, so why bother.
    Actually, I read the entire thread and most of the links provided in the posts. You asserted that a woman must prove a need to abort. That is ridiculous and factually incorrect.

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    Re: South Dakota Justifiable Homicide Bill Under Fire as Critics Say It Invites Murde

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    No, in most states an unlawful abortion is only a misdemeanor. Murder is a felony.
    Ah but we're not talking about "most states". We're talking about South Dakota, or did you not read the OP either?

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