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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    This man needs to be killed ASAP. The bastard, along with the low-life thugs in the Bush Administration, are responsible for this disastrous war.
    Oh please - oppose a war by killing it's former decision makers.

    Sure - that'll really send a message that killing and torture is bad.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You mean the book by the sniveling little ingrate Scott McClellan? What does he know?


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    How about folks such as Richard Clarke, one of our nation's foremost experts on counter-terrorism who not only was a Washington insider but a devout Conservative until he was how the intel was being manipulated by the Bush/Cheney Administration? Or what about Collin Powell's assessment on the matter? Two very highly respected men from our intelligence and military who bravely stepped forward to tell the truth but have since been defamed by their own party leaders.

    We can play the Democrat/Republican game all day, but the truth is the truth! The WMDs weren't there; the call to war was unjustified. EVERYTHING we were told leading up to it was a lie and we have the #1 source who provided the misleading information telling us so. And yet you guys are not only still defending former Pres. G. W. Bush and his war hungry VP on this matter, but you're working desparately to enject partisan politics into it. Amazing! Absolutely amazing!!

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    How about folks such as Richard Clarke, one of our nation's foremost experts on counter-terrorism who not only was a Washington insider but a devout Conservative until he was how the intel was being manipulated by the Bush/Cheney Administration? Or what about Collin Powell's assessment on the matter? Two very highly respected men from our intelligence and military who bravely stepped forward to tell the truth but have since been defamed by their own party leaders.

    We can play the Democrat/Republican game all day, but the truth is the truth! The WMDs weren't there; the call to war was unjustified. EVERYTHING we were told leading up to it was a lie and we have the #1 source who provided the misleading information telling us so. And yet you guys are not only still defending former Pres. G. W. Bush and his war hungry VP on this matter, but you're working desparately to enject partisan politics into it. Amazing! Absolutely amazing!!

    Not at all, but I am saying if you look from the first time I posted on this thread, the timing of this is to distract, and, or keep the divisions going. So I question it.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So it is....Ok, maybe you'll take Kathleen Parker's opinion before mine, that's fine...Here have a listen, it's short.




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    No, I won't take someone's word for it. I will never be about someone's word. There is overwhelming evidence by all kinds of insiders. Constantly finding excuses for ignoring them simply won't change the facts.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, I won't take someone's word for it. I will never be about someone's word. There is overwhelming evidence by all kinds of insiders. Constantly finding excuses for ignoring them simply won't change the facts.

    Come on old friend, at least listen to the clip.


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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    How about folks such as Richard Clarke, one of our nation's foremost experts on counter-terrorism who not only was a Washington insider but a devout Conservative until he was how the intel was being manipulated by the Bush/Cheney Administration? Or what about Collin Powell's assessment on the matter? Two very highly respected men from our intelligence and military who bravely stepped forward to tell the truth but have since been defamed by their own party leaders.

    We can play the Democrat/Republican game all day, but the truth is the truth! The WMDs weren't there; the call to war was unjustified. EVERYTHING we were told leading up to it was a lie and we have the #1 source who provided the misleading information telling us so. And yet you guys are not only still defending former Pres. G. W. Bush and his war hungry VP on this matter, but you're working desparately to enject partisan politics into it. Amazing! Absolutely amazing!!
    That's crap. Just as soon as things started looking bad in Iraq, the rats started jumping ship to save their own asses.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Come on old friend, at least listen to the clip.


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    I listened, and I have not changed my mind. Nothing said changes anything. He and others have spoke up, and there is no way around that. You can't excuse it away. It is not about whether you like someone or not; it is about overwhelming evidence.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I listened, and I have not changed my mind. Nothing said changes anything. He and others have spoke up, and there is no way around that. You can't excuse it away. It is not about whether you like someone or not; it is about overwhelming evidence.
    fingers firmly planted in ears eh Joe....heh, heh....

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    fingers firmly planted in ears eh Joe....heh, heh....

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    No. But it doesn't matter. This person basicly says he's a bad person for not reporting it earlier. This doesn't make it false. Nor is it just one person. It has been many people, over and over again. To ignore all of it, it is your side who has their fingers in their ears my friend.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Much like you and your side ignore the other facts. Odd how that works.
    Again a handful of naysayers doesn't prove anything. Its like saying the Truffers or birthers are right because they got a few so called experts. PLus they did find WMDs, there are wikileaks that say they found WMDs. You are just riding all over the Bush basher bandwagon trying to hang onto your little anti-Bush conspiracy theories along with the Eurotrash who hate Bush. Considering the other lies you people told its amazing you people can sit there with a straight face and laugh at birthers and truffers.

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