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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    1. Saddam had used WMDs in the past

    2. Saddam claimed to still have WMDs

    case closed

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, only the UN had the right to enforce that. They were UN sanctions and not US sanctions. The US acted outside the UN, and thus that can't hold as a rationale. Bush made an argument that was knowingly false. When you do that, you lie. There is no way around that.
    The only people lying are you die hard Bush bashing conspiracy theorists. A handful of naysayers does not equal doubt.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    You did not see it all destroyed. You don't even know if he was making more. IS there some standard Are you supposed to big a neon sign on the buidling that says WMDs made here?
    We have the testimoney of what was destoryed. We know that the country is boxed in, and we have a reasonable idea how limiting that was. But, yes, you have to have actual evidence. Lack of evidence is not equal to actual evidence.

    What kind of places do you need to store WMDs? Please enlighten us
    We covered this some years ago James. As I recall, we discussed ehavily why those shells had degraded and that Saddam did nto have the capacity to store such weapons. Do we really need to cover the same ground again?

    Saddam has a history using WMDs,WMDs were found in Iraq, Saddam did not let the inspectors inspect where they wanted, everybody and their mother said Saddam had WMDs even before Bush was in office said Saddam had WMDs. Why do you ignore these facts?
    I'm sorry James, but nothign matching the claim made was found. Because your personal standard is a low bar doesn't mean we found what Bush claimed. We didn't. He had nothing that warranted the cost of invading. Sorry.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The only people lying are you die hard Bush bashing conspiracy theorists. A handful of nay sayers does not equal doubt.
    James, not so. We ahve the evidence. Bush knew of the doubts, the lack of evidence, and yet he went out and claimed affirmatively that Saddam had and was doing what he didn't. No reasonable person calls this anythign other than a lie. If it were me or a democrat, you'd call it a lie as well. You knwo you would.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Only time will tell through historians, really, as documents and information surface...
    And it will likely confirm what most of planet earth has figured out.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We have the testimoney of what was destoryed. We know that the country is boxed in, and we have a reasonable idea how limiting that was. But, yes, you have to have actual evidence. Lack of evidence is not equal to actual evidence.
    A lack of evidence that he destroyed all the WMDs is somehow evidence that he didn't have any more WMDs or was not making more?


    We covered this some years ago James. As I recall, we discussed ehavily why those shells had degraded and that Saddam did nto have the capacity to store such weapons. Do we really need to cover the same ground again?

    This doesn't look like buried at the last minute in sand stuff.
    WikiLeaks Show WMD Hunt Continued in Iraq – With Surprising Results | Danger Room | Wired.com

    I'm sorry James, but nothign matching the claim made was found. Because your personal standard is a low bar doesn't mean we found what Bush claimed. We didn't. He had nothing that warranted the cost of invading. Sorry.
    Your couple of naysayers is a low standard. If this was some other dictator with no history of having WMDs and using WMDs then you might have a point.Those few naysayers might have had credibility.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    yeah, I'm sure at some point in the future someone will dig up every single square inch of Iraq and prove once and for all that Saddam didn't have the WMDs he claimed he had.

    when I was over there, we found freakin planes buried in the sand. Iraq is 168753 square miles of mostly unpopulated desert. just because the, to date, half assed attempts to find WMD caches haven't been successful doesn't mean that there aren't any buried somewhere in the remote Iraqi desert.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    James, not so. We ahve the evidence. Bush knew of the doubts, the lack of evidence, and yet he went out and claimed affirmatively that Saddam had and was doing what he didn't. No reasonable person calls this anythign other than a lie. If it were me or a democrat, you'd call it a lie as well. You knwo you would.
    It looks like you are never going to give up on your Bush basher conspiracy theory.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    This is retarded, where are the mobile chemical weapons labs? Wheres the yellowcake?

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    I respect your positivity, the cup is half full and these are merely half-truths.

    Clinging to WMD's ... still... a decade later. Please this is ****ing sad.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    I looked in the hall closet for my coat, it wasn't there...proof positive that there is no coat in my house.

    bush bashtards are the ones wetting themselves screaming Bush lied, the burden of proof is on them to show that he did lie.
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