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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    I guess that's why tards keep wetting themselves and bringing up Bush.
    Actually, this thread was about Curveball and Bush, something still relevent. If we don't learn from our mistakes, we will repeat them. If anyone still believes Bush didn't know of the serious doubts, that person belong with the bithers and 9/11 nutters.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, this thread was about Curveball and Bush, something still relevent. If we don't learn from our mistakes, we will repeat them. If anyone still believes Bush didn't know of the serious doubts, that person belong with the bithers and 9/11 nutters.
    If anyone still believes that it makes two ****s difference at this point, that person belongs with the troofers and birfers
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    you forget, we had inspectors in there for some time.
    And you forget that Saddam did not let the inspectors go where ever they please.Another reason everybody believed Saddam had WMDs.

    His infastruture was decimated.It really was never even possible he was growing and gathering.
    So your saying that there was no possibility that he could have moved his operations to another building?





    Now, if you suggest Bush had any hand in 9/11, your equal to a birther.
    When you go around suggesting Bush lied for war you are equal to any birther-tard or truffer-tard.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    So - "Curveball" gave statements that they believed to be true.

    And now he claims that they were lies.

    So - is he now telling the truth or telling a lie about those initial statements?

    Further - how can we even try to confirm that Janabi is actually the "Curveball" that they claim to have this intelligence from?

    I think I'm best left not altering my other views on this entire thing all on the basis of one article that has no foundation. We were alreayd AT war in Iraq far before "Curveball" came onto the scene and the invasion of Iraq was already planned before 9/11 happened.

    I don't think "Curveball" made a bit of a difference - it was only used as an excuse. . . all activities would have (did happen) regardless.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Actually, this thread was about Curveball and Bush, something still relevent. If we don't learn from our mistakes, we will repeat them. If anyone still believes Bush didn't know of the serious doubts, that person belong with the bithers and 9/11 nutters.
    What serious doubts? One or two men against the fact Saddam has a history using WMDs,WMDs were found in Iraq, Saddam did not let the inspectors inspect where they wanted, everybody and their mother said Saddam had WMDs even before Bush was in office said Saddam had WMDs does not equal serious doubts. If this was some other dictators besides Saddam and some other country other than Iraq you might have a point about serious doubts. You are just clinging to your Bush basher band wagon regardless of how absurd the conspiracy theory is.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And you forget that Saddam did not let the inspectors go where ever they please.Another reason everybody believed Saddam had WMDs.
    We had seen a large amount destoryed. We had no reason to think anything close to growing and gathering was going on. Not to mention what was required to store such things. So, no, nothing was forgottenhere.

    So your saying that there was no possibility that he could have moved his operations to another building?
    There was not tthe ability to create, house, and store. It requires more than another building.





    When you go around suggesting Bush lied for war you are equal to any birther-tard or truffer-tard.
    That's funny. Inaccurate, but funny. As we have evidence that Bush was informed, but ignored the actual intel, as I linked for you above, he either lied or was a complete tool. There is not much inbetween.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What serious doubts? One or two men against the fact Saddam has a history using WMDs,WMDs were found in Iraq, Saddam did not let the inspectors inspect where they wanted, everybody and their mother said Saddam had WMDs even before Bush was in office said Saddam had WMDs does not equal serious doubts.
    More than one or two, but they were the lynch pin of the arguments. Their intel was used, and they were the meat of the argument. History doesn't equal fact, or even evididence. It gives cause to ask, but not to invade.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Saddam failed to abide by the sanctions imposed by the UN after desert storm. the US invasion was justified on those grounds alone. everything else is Bush bash bedwetting and handwringing
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    We had seen a large amount destoryed.
    You did not see it all destroyed. You don't even know if he was making more. IS there some standard Are you supposed to big a neon sign on the buidling that says WMDs made here?

    We had no reason to think anything close to growing and gathering was going on. Not to mention what was required to store such things. So, no, nothing was forgottenhere.


    There was not tthe ability to create, house, and store. It requires more than another building.
    What kind of places do you need to store WMDs? Please enlighten us


    That's funny. Inaccurate, but funny. As we have evidence that Bush was informed, but ignored the actual intel, as I linked for you above, he either lied or was a complete tool. There is not much inbetween.
    Saddam has a history using WMDs,WMDs were found in Iraq, Saddam did not let the inspectors inspect where they wanted, everybody and their mother said Saddam had WMDs even before Bush was in office said Saddam had WMDs. Why do you ignore these facts?
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Saddam failed to abide by the sanctions imposed by the UN after desert storm. the US invasion was justified on those grounds alone. everything else is Bush bash bedwetting and handwringing
    No, only the UN had the right to enforce that. They were UN sanctions and not US sanctions. The US acted outside the UN, and thus that can't hold as a rationale. Bush made an argument that was knowingly false. When you do that, you lie. There is no way around that.

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