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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    It's more than that james. More than a handful, and there is specific evidence of expressed doubts not reflected in Bush's statements. He knew, had to know, the intel he was using wasn't valid. It is too much to believe otherwise.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Why hasn't Colin Powell been charged with war crimes?

    He is the one who tried to get support for invasion from the UN by laying out the case that Iraq had WMD. With all his experience in government and the military, he had to have known. Shouldn't he be held responsible for his lies?

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It's more than that james. More than a handful, and there is specific evidence of expressed doubts not reflected in Bush's statements. He knew, had to know, the intel he was using wasn't valid. It is too much to believe otherwise.
    that's simply your OPINION, you have yet to provide any evidence to prove it.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Why hasn't Colin Powell been charged with war crimes?
    simple...he's not Bush. this whole thing is all about bashing/getting Bush. nothing more, nothing less.

    It's a bedwetting, bush bashing witch hunt.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    that's simply your OPINION, you have yet to provide any evidence to prove it.
    I don't know. Don't we ahve evidence he was informed? I think that was linked earlier. Are you suggesting he wasn't capable of understanding? Really, I'm not sure opinion enters into this. If someone tells me this guy can't be trusted, and I have no reason to trust the person, can I really present the doubted evidence as if it were not doubted? Would you consider it an opinion thing if it were me?

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Why hasn't Colin Powell been charged with war crimes?

    He is the one who tried to get support for invasion from the UN by laying out the case that Iraq had WMD. With all his experience in government and the military, he had to have known. Shouldn't he be held responsible for his lies?

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    He was the mouth piece, the one choosen to present what he was given. I think he's still angery about it. Not the same as being the decider who choose to use such as evidence, knowing the porblems with the evidence.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    He was the mouth piece, the one choosen to present what he was given. I think he's still angery about it. Not the same as being the decider who choose to use such as evidence, knowing the porblems with the evidence.
    I thought Powell was supposed to be an honorable man. I guess, if he let himself be used as a mouth piece to lie about something so significant, maybe he is just another scumbag.

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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I thought Powell was supposed to be an honorable man. I guess, if he let himself be used as a mouth piece to lie about something so significant, maybe he is just another scumbag.

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    I think he is (honourable, that is). This just about killed him, according to inside sources. This is why he didn't serve a second term.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

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    Oh please - oppose a war by killing it's former decision makers.

    Sure - that'll really send a message that killing and torture is bad.
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    Re: Defector 'Curveball' admits he lied about Iraqi WMD

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I thought Powell was supposed to be an honorable man. I guess, if he let himself be used as a mouth piece to lie about something so significant, maybe he is just another scumbag.

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    Actually here's what happened. The CIA got the crappy intel and gave it to Powell, who wasn't told that it was crappy. He even asked George Tenet, head of the CIA at that time, to double-check the intel and Tenet responded that it was a "slam-dunk." Thus Powell went out to the UN with what he thought was legit intelligence, but instead ended up having a fool made of him. He was not the man who got the intel, rather just the messenger.

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