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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Let me amaze you still... you may amaze yourself by recognizing the simplest of things like your own contradiction. Again... here it is.
    There simply isn't one there. I don't even see where you think there is one. medicare is risk group due to age. Medicaid due to poverty. Nothing I didn't know. Nowhere do I state anythign contradictory. But without you adding anything new, I'm finshed with the silliness.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    I'm finshed with the silliness.
    so soon?

    LOL!

    meanwhile

    obama's budget, released on monday, feb 14, valentines day, by all accounts PUNTS his responsibilities and kicks the can of entitlement reform down the road

    obama's budget, released on valentines day, actually INCREASES the deficit over awful '11 by THIRTY PERCENT

    obama's budget paints a totally unrealistic, pollyanna picture of our outyear projections, relying on rosy interest rates which can't be sustained and preposterously optimistic growth rates which can't be reached

    White House Expects Federal Deficit to Spike to $1.65 Trillion - WSJ.com

    the ny times a year ago predicted that service on the debt, MERE INTEREST ALONE, would soon approach A TRILLION DOLLARS PER YEAR

    News Headlines

    the party in power pusillanimously passed on even PROPOSING a budget in terrible '10

    Dems won

    that's why we're still operating on appropriations

    which obama's gonna have to VETO else swallow, thus SHUTTING DOWN the govt

    over an issue as incumbent as the HIRING OF EXTRA IRS AGENTS to enforce THE MANDATE

    substance, baby!

    it's all in the LINKS

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There simply isn't one there. I don't even see where you think there is one. medicare is risk group due to age. Medicaid due to poverty. Nothing I didn't know. Nowhere do I state anythign contradictory. But without you adding anything new, I'm finshed with the silliness.
    One thing I know for sure Boo... is you won't get this medicare mistake wrong again for a very long time. I've taught you through forced repetition that medicare covers everyone at age 65. I'm glad I could help you and that you feel you now understand the difference.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    There simply isn't one there. I don't even see where you think there is one. medicare is risk group due to age. Medicaid due to poverty. Nothing I didn't know. Nowhere do I state anythign contradictory. But without you adding anything new, I'm finshed with the silliness.

    Meanwhile Boo, you also said that you think that Medicare does a pretty good job covering what they do.

    The 2009 Social Security and Medicare Trustees Reports show the combined unfunded liability of these two programs has reached nearly $107 trillion in today's dollars! That is about seven times the size of the U.S. economy and 10 times the size of the outstanding national debt.

    The unfunded liability is the difference between the benefits that have been promised to current and future retirees and what will be collected in dedicated taxes and Medicare premiums. Last year alone, this debt rose by $5 trillion. If no other reform is enacted, this funding gap can only be closed in future years by substantial tax increases, large benefit cuts or both.

    Social Security and Medicare Projections: 2009 | Publications | National Center for Policy Analysis | NCPA
    You call running up hundreds of Trillions in promised debt doing a good job?


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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    You call running up hundreds of Trillions in promised debt doing a good job?


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    I would think yes, since running up yet more debt requires (in Boo's mind) more government regulation, spending, control and intervention which is the ultimate goal right?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Meanwhile Boo, you also said that you think that Medicare does a pretty good job covering what they do.



    You call running up hundreds of Trillions in promised debt doing a good job?


    j-mac
    Yes, considering their liabilities, they do a pretty good job. If you want to see it make a profit, you go to a single payer. Everyone paying premiums, including those less likely to need care. And, remember that old chart, that showed the medicare dollar went futher and did more than your insurance dollar.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    One thing I know for sure Boo... is you won't get this medicare mistake wrong again for a very long time. I've taught you through forced repetition that medicare covers everyone at age 65. I'm glad I could help you and that you feel you now understand the difference.
    Never made a mistake to begin with. But I'll keep worrying about you.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yes, considering their liabilities, they do a pretty good job.
    liabilities?

    LOL!

    If you want to see it make a profit
    no one wants medicare to make a profit, machiavelli

    we just want it to make good on it's HUNDRED TRILLION DOLLARS of...

    umm, what were they called again?

    oh, yeah---LIABILITIES

    LOL!

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Never made a mistake to begin with. But I'll keep worrying about you.
    Next time I'll try electronic flashcards... they may work better. I'll still be teaching you.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    today:

    Democrats in Congress are grappling with a question as they negotiate a spending deal: Who's in charge? The top two Democratic leaders in the House have twice split on whether to approve short-term government funding bills that cut billions from federal accounts. Senate Democrats haven’t put forward a long-term spending plan that can move through their chamber, and Democrats on both sides of the Capitol say they have no idea where the White House stands or who’s running the show.

    The result is a rank and file that is confused about its direction and unhappy with the leadership — or lack of it — on when to go along with the Republican-controlled House on budget matters and when to stand and fight.

    “The sum and substance of our strategy can’t be waiting for the other side to [mess] up,” Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) told bloggers Wednesday. But for many Democrats, that’s exactly what their leaders’ short-term strategy amounts to. In a follow-up interview with POLITICO, the Brooklyn liberal said if there is a more elegant Democratic plan, “it’s such a Jedi mind-meld going on that it hasn’t filtered down to my level.”

    “Where are we going to fight?” said Rep. Mike Capuano (D-Mass.). “Where is the president going to lead? And are we going to follow?”

    Pragmatists in the party leadership such as Maryland Rep. Chris Van Hollen, the ranking Democrat on the Budget Committee, and Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Steve Israel of New York voted with Hoyer. Liberal leaders, including assistant leader Jim Clyburn of South Carolina and caucus Chairman John Larson of Connecticut, went with Pelosi.

    Adding to the frustration, Senate Democratic sources say the White House told senators at a private Democratic Policy Committee meeting last Thursday that polling shows the public isn’t engaged in the fight over finishing last year’s spending bills.
    Democrats wonder: What's our plan? - Jonathan Allen - POLITICO.com

    do you deny it?

    roger simon's drug tested professional leftists and journolisters are certainly not alone

    there is absolutely no leadership emanating from this white house---on spending, on the deficit, on the budget, on entitlements, on gas prices, in foreign policy...

    are you gonna argue with weiner, differ from van hollen?

    help yourself

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