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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    We can go in circles all day. They are all synonyms.
    Then go on all day. Access to heathcare is available to everyone. Whether they can afford it or not or obtain it or not is something else. End of story.

    If you haven't gotten it through your skull yet, I'm not going to change my mind.
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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    the dude's in his own little world

    RealClearPolitics - Video - Obama: Gov't Not Going To Spend "More Money Than We're Taking In"

    apparently you're not alone in confusing fantasy with reality

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    my pleasure, thank you

    but, with all the respect which you deserve, which is substantial, i see you as quibbling again

    and i could see it comin when i linked it, oh brother

    how could anyone allow himself to be so predictable, passe, cant

    truly just a talking point

    i think the meaning of the abc story is quite clear---the pm, admittedly but sharer of a coalition govt, has indicated substantive reform

    and i think, largely, we all pretty much know which direction he's pointing, thus even pretty predictably his specifics

    now, how much pull he has over there, just how far he's gonna be able to push his always extant opposition, i could only speculate

    ie, waste everyone's time

    it's pretty clear, however, that the entire movement, and its fundamentally massive, in almost all the nations across the pond is in the direction of some radical austerity, anti keynesian, almost paleolithic

    thank you for your civility and thoughtfulness

    but please start to separate the significant, the observation, from the quibbling

    ie, the difference between large and small

    stay up
    I can certainly see the direction in which he's heading.
    His words show that he wants to dismantle the single payer system, but in Britain, it seems that doing that is as much political suicide as completely eliminating, say, Defense spending, medicare and medicaid in one go.
    He'll take the largest step he can without alienating the public.
    Give a man a fish, or he will destroy the only existing vial of antidote.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    this kid aint up for gibbs' job

    come to think of it, gibbs wasn't up for gibbs' job

    and did you hear bill burton quit this week

    i appreciate that you've never heard of this major player in the obama administration, but let me tell you, this team is in big trouble

    remember the time obama's press secretary and close adviser, an absolutely bizarre combination, revelatory of the insular nature of this white house, mr gibbs, suggested that the journolisting members of the professional left should collectively pee in a cup?

    Robert Gibbs says leftwing critics of Obama 'ought to be drug tested' | Richard Adams | World news | guardian.co.uk

    that was robert's beginning of his end

    anyway, this carney kid is off to a klutzy commencement

    RealClearPolitics - Video - WH's Jay Carney: Stimulus "Goals Have Been Met"

    ouch

    all informed americans remember like a mantra

    indeed, barney franks rues the day:

    Frank: Obama admin 'dumb' to predict no higher than 8% unemployment - The Hill's Blog Briefing Room

    that's why no less than time mag graded: Barack Obama's Stimulus Plan: Failing by Its Own Measure - TIME

    and that was a year and a half ago

    are you exhausted yet?

    from defending obama?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHv1ENYAulY

    you will be, it's gonna get a LOT tuffer

    starting, oh, right about now

    stay up
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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    even roger simon's journolisters aren't buying it

    Familiar ring to Obama's budget cuts - Carrie Budoff Brown - POLITICO.com

    the plastic prez promised the same phony cuts last year

    and the year before

    or so they say

    what a joke

    the nation is sinking and its elected leader of hope and change PUNTS

    he disses his own debt commission, his lily-livered fallback for two years

    we're seeing far more leadership outta the house and even THE SENATE these days

    embarrassed yet?

    you will be

    huffpo, wapo, the nyt and the national journal already are---did you read the op eds concerning his budget?

    party on

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    even roger simon's journolisters aren't buying it

    Familiar ring to Obama's budget cuts - Carrie Budoff Brown - POLITICO.com

    the plastic prez promised the same phony cuts last year

    and the year before

    or so they say

    what a joke

    the nation is sinking and its elected leader of hope and change PUNTS

    he disses his own debt commission, his lily-livered fallback for two years

    we're seeing far more leadership outta the house and even THE SENATE these days

    embarrassed yet?

    you will be

    huffpo, wapo, the nyt and the national journal already are---did you read the op eds concerning his budget?

    party on
    yeah "leadership" out the house ...."lets pass some bills that allow the rich to get richer and the middle class have to eat more dirt".....gop all the WAy

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by diablo45 View Post
    lets pass some bills that allow the rich to get richer and the middle class have to eat more dirt
    Obama Calls Tax Cuts the 'Right Thing to Do'

    At Obama's side, Clinton backs tax deal - Politics - White House - msnbc.com

    they're now the bush/obama/clinton/boehner/mcconnell tax cuts

    ie, if you're not aboard you're a splinter

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    progressive pissiness ups gop prospects in upper parliament

    Tougher road ahead for Senate Dems - Shira Toeplitz - POLITICO.com

    conrad, tester, nelson, nelson, mccaskill, bingaman, webb, casey, brown of ohio, manchin, kohl, klobuchar, stabenow, cantwell...

    we only need 4

    good luck holding on to dakota, montana, nebraska, virginia, florida, missouri, wisconsin...

    in times like these, americans want adults in charge

    not angry adolescents spewing class warfare

    party on, punks and pubescents

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by diablo45 View Post
    yeah "leadership" out the house ...."lets pass some bills that allow the rich to get richer and the middle class have to eat more dirt".....gop all the WAy
    Clearly you are with the administartion and Bernanke on this. Let's inflate food and energy to devalue our debt. Who gets hurt the worst with this inflation the rich or poor?

    Think about that and get back to me.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by whysoserious View Post
    So we are in agreement that Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security need to remain untouched and should be off the block since they have their own system of funding and are not causing the deficit to rise. There's a start.
    That's incorrect. The long-term fiscal imbalances associated with those programs are key drivers of the nation's structural (non-cyclical) fiscal challenges. Social Security's issues is a relatively straight-forward actuarial exercise. Medicare's and Medicaid's issues are far more complex and they will require fundamental health care reform that addresses the excessive cost growth problem that plagues the nation's health care system.

    For more details on the issues related to these programs, one can refer to the CBO's most recent long-term budget outlook: http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/115xx/doc...06-30-LTBO.pdf

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