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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what i see is an attempt to change our society for the better, imo. i WANT access to decent, affordable healthcare for all. i WANT access to a good education for all. i WANT our corporations to stop polluting our earth while raping consumers. i WANT equal opportunity for all. i WANT our country to continue to be a beacon of hope.

    which of these do you disagree with?
    you damn socialist/communist/////(insert label here)

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what i see is an attempt to change our society for the better, imo. i WANT access to decent, affordable healthcare for all. i WANT access to a good education for all. i WANT our corporations to stop polluting our earth while raping consumers. i WANT equal opportunity for all. i WANT our country to continue to be a beacon of hope.

    which of these do you disagree with?
    What you want is someone else to take over your personal responsibility issues? Why do you believe the Federal Govt. can give you what you WANT? What you seem to want is the utopia that liberals always promise and never deliver. A govt. that is big enough to give you all that you WANT is also big enough to take it all away. Our Constitution guarantees equal opportunity, you want equal outcome. Affordable healthcare is a relative term and different depending on the individual. In spite of history you seem to believe the govt. can provide affordable anything? Name for me one thing that the govt. has provided that has reduced costs and improved quality?

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    what i see is an attempt to change our society for the better, imo. i WANT access to decent, affordable healthcare for all. i WANT access to a good education for all. i WANT our corporations to stop polluting our earth while raping consumers. i WANT equal opportunity for all. i WANT our country to continue to be a beacon of hope.

    which of these do you disagree with?
    I'll take one of those.... education. Each year we spend more and more on education, yet our youth fall further and further behind the rest of the world.

    Why do libs think that simply throwing more and more money at a problem will magically fix it ???

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Isn't it amazing how cult followers operate? They ignore the history that refutes their ideology preferring instead to showing their arrogance in believing they can do better than the previous group of liberals.
    i'm a middle aged white woman, hardly a cult follower. tell me, how did you survive 8 years of clinton? do you pine for nixon?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    could you please link me to that master plan?
    i'd love to see that 'masterplan' as well....won't happen though, as it doesnt exist except for in his mind.....anyhoo, as you well know, if obama had an (R) next to his name, this budget would be all well and good, and everything in it absolutely neccessary to the continued existence of this country.

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What you want is someone else to take over your personal responsibility issues? Why do you believe the Federal Govt. can give you what you WANT? What you seem to want is the utopia that liberals always promise and never deliver. A govt. that is big enough to give you all that you WANT is also big enough to take it all away. Our Constitution guarantees equal opportunity, you want equal outcome. Affordable healthcare is a relative term and different depending on the individual. In spite of history you seem to believe the govt. can provide affordable anything? Name for me one thing that the govt. has provided that has reduced costs and improved quality?
    do you have comprehension problems? not once did i mention equal outcome, the latest republican buzzword. why do you hate your fellow citizens? see how that works? please stop your silly "interpretations" of my posts.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    I think those who have not seen the master plan need to turn in their liberal card!

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'll take one of those.... education. Each year we spend more and more on education, yet our youth fall further and further behind the rest of the world.

    Why do libs think that simply throwing more and more money at a problem will magically fix it ???
    silly you, just like conservative. where did i say throwing money at education would magically fix it? clearly, your education was subpar if you can't comprehend my words.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm a middle aged white woman, hardly a cult follower. tell me, how did you survive 8 years of clinton? do you pine for nixon?
    What does Clinton or Nixon have to do with what is going on now? I survived a lot of Presidents and don't expect the President to give me what I want but instead to provide a policy that allows me to generate what I NEED. You seem to have a vision for the Federal Govt. that is contrary to the freedoms guaranteed in our Constitution. It isn't the government's role to provide you what you want and in spite of all the money we spend all we have to show for it is a huge debt and the problems remain. How much money is wasted each year on healthcare, education, and the EPA and still the problems exist? Why aren't you demanding accountability for all that money that is being spent and wasted by the Federal Govt. that you support?

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    Re: Obama's FY 2012 Budget

    Geithner Tells Obama Debt Expense to Increase to Record - Bloomberg

    Barack Obama may lose the advantage of low borrowing costs as the U.S. Treasury Department says what it pays to service the national debt is poised to triple amid record budget deficits.

    Interest expense will rise to 3.1 percent of gross domestic product by 2016, from 1.3 percent in 2010 with the government forecast to run cumulative deficits of more than $4 trillion through the end of 2015, according to page 23 of a 24-page presentation made to a 13-member committee of bond dealers and investors that meet quarterly with Treasury officials.

    Its a slow train wreck coming and we all know its going to happen, said Bret Barker, an interest-rate analyst at Los Angeles-based TCW Group Inc., which manages about $115 billion in assets. Its just a question of whether we want to deal with it. There are huge structural changes that have to go on with this economy.

    The amount of marketable U.S. government debt outstanding has risen to $8.96 trillion from $5.8 trillion at the end of 2008, according to the Treasury Department. Debt-service costs will climb to 82 percent of the $757 billion shortfall projected for 2016 from about 12 percent in last years deficit, according to the budget projections.

    That compares with 69 percent for Portugal, whose bonds have plummeted on speculation it may need to be bailed out by the European Union and International Monetary Fund.
    debt service, MERE INTEREST PAYMENTS ALONE, will reach THREE PERCENT OF GDP by 2016---according to the white house itself

    and the prez plays perpetual pollyanna

    ie, the reality is significantly worse

    p-u-n-t

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